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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    you dont understand what f2p games are im guessing

    they come out with content so that they can SELL the content

    the games arent actualy free, thats just a term to describe non subscription, everything in game however is expensive
    Excellent description of that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jennestia View Post
    The fact they're redoing the client and servers without a large population (let alone a paying population) should tell you it's not necessarily the number of people playing that brings game tweaks and expansions, it helps sure, but F2P MMOs with significantly less than 100,000 users per region still get episodic content.
    I can see why you are being defensive about the player population. You're right and you're wrong if you are defensive about your defensiveness.

    You're right that a small population is adequate to play a game but
    You're wrong because a small population leads to a game's death
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    100% sure your info is 100% inacurate

    you will always get people trying to guestimate these things and they will usualy go with the number they feel will get them the most attention(and in this case saying we only have 12k is probly a very very undersatimated number)

    from what people are telling me we are probly sitting closer to 40k
    LMAO your dreaming
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    323 (?) - Bodhum Server population @ 3:41 AM EST Dec 18th/2011

    We have a pretty low pop server I believe. Just posting for info.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neptune View Post
    You're wrong because a small population leads to a game's death
    I don't quite see what this has to do with FFXIV. A small, insufficient, unsustainable population is not going to kill this game. We have been past that point of no return for a year.

    Unless you are implying as if there was some relevance as to How unsustainable the population is. In which case I have bad news for you- the game will be vastly more sustainable in less than a month than it has been for 15 months.

    A population that doesn't generate revenue is as good as no population at all.
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    If I was SE I would merge everyone who is left into as couple of servers, declare beta 2 and concentrate on making 2.0.

    14k is dismal and this number is only going down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    If I was SE I would merge everyone who is left into as couple of servers, declare beta 2 and concentrate on making 2.0.

    14k is dismal and this number is only going down.
    Once again, who is gonna pay the upkeep bills? You are either funding the service or won't have one. 14k is a stupid number to bring up. It's like saying WoW has a million players. Dotdotdot.
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    Melmond was sitting around 6-700 users during the time of this post.
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    They still should add the /sea all feature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    I don't quite see what this has to do with FFXIV. A small, insufficient, unsustainable population is not going to kill this game. We have been past that point of no return for a year.
    I didn't mean to imply that the small population would implode; I agree with you that it's stable. What I mean by a small population leading to the game's death is the company pulling the plug on it, which would most definitely happen to this game if the population stays small. Not 12k small, but >100k small.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    If I was SE I would merge everyone who is left into as couple of servers, declare beta 2 and concentrate on making 2.0.

    14k is dismal and this number is only going down.
    I agree; they should definitely do that. That's the kind of move that the gaming community would respect. Just say, our bad, we admit our mistakes, and this is beta 2. Because that's what it is. The full release isn't until 2.0, obviously.

    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    Once again, who is gonna pay the upkeep bills? You are either funding the service or won't have one. 14k is a stupid number to bring up. It's like saying WoW has a million players. Dotdotdot.
    14k does not fund this game betelgeuzah. If you think 1.4 Million dollars a year can pay for 250 people, that means everyone is only making $5,600 a year. Something has to change for this game to make money, but it has nothing to do with charging 12,000 or so people $9.99 a month.
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    These numbers are shockingly low if accurate.
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