Tanks using ilv270 STR acessories

[Lewtskie]

So, again, nothing on improving your tank skills...with the purpose of actually tanking...only deeps deeps deeps deeps...

A flaw on SE's part, not the players. For the most part SE has failed to create a true dynamic to the actual tanking portion of playing a Tank. You have skills to build and maintain enmity, and skills to mitigate. You hold all the aggro, you pop cds when needed and that's the extent of tanking. Anything within the realm of extra-mitigation is nothing more than a singular skill or rotation. That's because creating a convoluted(advanced) mechanic to performing these necessary functions will create a schism that would not be healthy to the playerbase as a whole. So in the end the dynamic to playing a tank is how well you can perform other duties on top of your tanking responsibilities, and a primary source for that are advanced dps rotations.

[Crater]

So, again, nothing on improving your tank skills...with the purpose of actually tanking...only deeps deeps deeps deeps...

You can't improve your grades in a pass/fail class.

[akaneakki]

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Yes everyone should have the chance or the opportunity to raid, I agree fully. However many act like it's fine to play dungeon mode on during raids, when it clearly isn't, Many can't raid because of their skills of how they handle things. Overhealing, over using MP, not mitigation good enough, rotations are way off etc, the list is big.

[Reynhart]

A flaw on SE's part, not the players. For the most part SE has failed to create a true dynamic to the actual tanking portion of playing a Tank.

Why would they try to fix it when you have numerous people coming on the official forum to claim that the actual tanking meta is the only way to make tanking fun ?

As I said somewhere else, perfect tanking skills should make you close to self-sufficient. Right now, tank is the only role that need support to perform its primary duty

You can't improve your grades in a pass/fail class.

What ?

[Kyt]

Why would they try to fix it when you have numerous people coming on the official forum to claim that the actual tanking meta is the only way to make tanking fun ?

As I said somewhere else, perfect tanking skills should make you close to self-sufficient. Right now, tank is the only role that need support to perform its primary duty

Tanks needs support to tank? I don't think that's true right now. You can do everything you need to do as a tank completely on your own.

[Reynhart]

Tanks needs support to tank? I don't think that's true right now. You can do everything you need to do as a tank completely on your own.

Sure, try to survive without a healer when raiding and tell how it went

[VargasVermillion]

Why would they try to fix it when you have numerous people coming on the official forum to claim that the actual tanking meta is the only way to make tanking fun ?

Well it sure as hell isn't that fun if your only concern is holding aggro + pressing one button every few minutes to mitigate a single predictable hit. In order to make tanks fun in other ways they'd have to retool all three of them, which just won't happen.

[Kyt]

Sure, try to survive without a healer when raiding and tell how it went

That's not the same as being able to do my job without support. The trinity system calls for healers healing the tank. I can do everything I need to do to be a tank by myself.

[Reynhart]

Well it sure as hell isn't that fun if your only concern is holding aggro + pressing one button every few minutes to mitigate a single predictable hit.

In that sentence alone, there are already two things that could be fixed without even touching damage output.
"pressing one button every few minutes"
"single predictable hit"

That's not the same as being able to do my job without support. The trinity system calls for healers healing the tank. I can do everything I need to do to be a tank by myself.

Your job is to keep the mob you and survive. There could plenty of healing needed not specifically for the tank. And we're talking about perfect tanking. Until that point, healers are also a safety net for the tanks.

[Tila]

In that sentence alone, there are already two things that could be fixed without even touching damage output.
"pressing one button every few minutes"
"single predictable hit"

Your job is to keep the mob you and survive. There could plenty of healing needed not specifically for the tank. And we're talking about perfect tanking. Until that point, healers are also a safety net for the tanks.

Well I mean DPS need healers to do their role: they would die to damage without them.

Only healer you could say is entirely self sufficient.