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    Quote Originally Posted by Inuk9 View Post
    Why would you do that SE?

    I really hope raid content don't allow to tanks being squishy and understatus just to do more damage.
    Listen bud. Tanks aren't squishy because they have less HP. Tanks are squishy when tanks don't use the proper mitigation tools or don't have the proper gear for the fight. Last night I was in full 270 STR accessories for Susano and I wasn't having a problem at all. This allowed me to do more dmg as well as tank with no problems at all.

    I really hope they decide to do VIT scaling again because this is just sad that I have to do this to help my group out more.
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    Cacho'rro Dos'ventos
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    Behemoth
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Axel_Ward View Post
    Listen bud. Tanks aren't squishy because they have less HP. Tanks are squishy when tanks don't use the proper mitigation tools or don't have the proper gear for the fight. Last night I was in full 270 STR accessories for Susano and I wasn't having a problem at all. This allowed me to do more dmg as well as tank with no problems at all.

    I really hope they decide to do VIT scaling again because this is just sad that I have to do this to help my group out more.
    I hope savage content kills STR tanks with 2 auto attacks
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    Delmira Garnet
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    Midgardsormr
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    Samurai Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Inuk9 View Post
    I hope savage content kills STR tanks with 2 auto attacks
    So a full vit tank will die 3 auto attacks. Is that really any different? Would any pure healers players be able to heal that amount of damage at all? Lol
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    Liza Sol
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    Culinarian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by DGladius View Post
    So a full vit tank will die 3 auto attacks. Is that really any different? Would any pure healers players be able to heal that amount of damage at all? Lol
    Haha you nailed it. Seriously this shit is really funny, not gonna lie xD.
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    Val Vermillion
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    Tonberry
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Yeah, tanks should just deal with being less fun guys, play it so the queues on the fun jobs are faster, keep that tank stance on and try not to go over the bare minimum of usefulness and we can have a better experience for everyone.
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    Arngrim Lightheart
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    Zalera
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    If the demand is high enough (which looks like it in my case) SE may put VIT scaling back in a future update. Albeit I'm still low lvl I keep seeing these huge debates over VIT and STR in terms of stat priorities. Might be difficult for me to pick one when I'm around the lvl where stats matter.
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    Elim Lovecraft
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    Faerie
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Trust me tanks -at least the high end ones - will be using them in raid content. Unless something is changed before the new raid comes out which I highly doubt.
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    Shan Aurelius
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    Behemoth
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    I thought the STR tank meta was awful when it was a thing a while back, and it still is now. The few times I've been on anything other than tank in the past few weeks I've seen a rise in bad STR tanks that is making me facepalm.

    I, for one, will not use STR accessories for better enmity, I've gotten used to the tank changes by now and know what to do to hold aggro. Will I meld STR into my right side? Probably. I'm definitely not gonna give up survivability for more dps though.
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    Arnar Grande
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    Ultros
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by The_Shang View Post
    I thought the STR tank meta was awful when it was a thing a while back, and it still is now.
    What I think is awful is how SE gives DPS a new stat called Direct Hit that increases damage dealer DPS even more but makes it so VIT and Tenacity are worthless for aggro. It's like they don't understand how aggro in their game even works. (Tank stance is a multiplier on damage; the more damage you do, the better you hold aggro.) :|

    Things weren't perfect, but were better in Heavensward. At least we were getting half a main stat from our right side with VIT giving 0.45 AP.
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    Areic Davrun
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 90
    In all the new content I'll be using 270 str gear. Plain and simple, we'll be completing extremes and savage fine, I'll continue to not die. If you wanna leave feel free but thats your half hour wait time.

    If you're contributing and staying alive fine, whats the problem? Unless you're one of the lazy healers who likes to watch netflix while casting cure II every 10 seconds and hate that a str tank may be making you cast it every 9.5 seconds instead if even that, since most using them are min/maxers who know what they're doing
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