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    Inuk9's Avatar
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    Cacho'rro Dos'ventos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Natashio View Post
    Whua...? Using ingame items to increase one's damage is now an exploit...Okay...;d
    Yeah sure, the devs want us to use 3.5 acessories in 4.0 content. Makes sense.
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    Natashi Tamaruo
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inuk9 View Post
    Yeah sure, the devs want us to use 3.5 acessories in 4.0 content. Makes sense.
    Did you start 4.0 with 4.0 accessories..or did the game give you 4.0 accessories to you for free upon log in. If these items still have use..then where's the exploit..
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    Last edited by Natashio; 06-27-2017 at 01:24 AM.
    Is it reset Tuesday yet.

    I question whether I'm playing a PvE game with PvP mixed in, or I am I playing a PfG.

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    Aenn Do'chas
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    Coeurl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Natashio View Post
    Whua...? Using ingame items to increase one's damage is now an exploit...Okay...;d
    It is when people bypass the ilvl requirement then switch to lower ilvl gear. It's obviously not intended.
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    Felix Blackthorne
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inuk9 View Post
    That's not a customization. It's an exploit.
    It's not an exploit, it's terrible game design.
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    Sophi Wynne
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha087 View Post
    It's not an exploit, it's terrible game design.
    While it does happen to be poor design, I'm more likely to believe it was an oversight on their part, having forgotten about (or repressed) the STR tanking meta from Gordias.
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    Mim Silmaril
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    People saying they will only wear str acc in raid should do A9s-A12s without any vit accs, without echo and with minimum ilvl first.
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    Cierre Mhakaracca
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    Shiva
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neophyte View Post
    People saying they will only wear str acc in raid should do A9s-A12s without any vit accs, without echo and with minimum ilvl first.
    We are talking about current reality of content here. If you want to go down that path, shouldnt we exclude DPS players from content if they couldnt to twintania pre-nerf with old lvl 50 gear?

    And generally, are all you people demanding that the only way of alleviating the current HORRID state of at least 2 tanks in the game insane? Have you seen the lack of tanks? the PF queues? Do you think taking away ANYTHING from tank players is making them more likely to play?

    Right now, we should all start heaping rewards, goodies and buffs on all the tank classes, whatever it takes to get more of them playing for PF content, because otherwise this game is quickly going "tank or go guild only" for instanced content with limited playtime.

    Buff all tanks, give them massive DPS increases (and just go and buff boss HP accordingly), give them QoL, give them exclusive coin rewards that gives them unique minions, mounts, housing items for being Adventurer in Need, stuff that makes people play tank for whatever reason. Dont be crazy and take away even MORE stuff.
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    Klongol Eartheye
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    You can already do this with STR accessories. That is precisely why tanks are starting to equip them. It makes no difference whether you have 60k HP or 40k. If the boss' attacks cannot kill you, it's entirely irrelevant.
    This entire thread is about the problems presented by a Tank wearing STR accessories and struggles they hoist on a group. I'd hardly call that irrelevant.

    Just go to the DF thread and you'll already seen numerous examples of the problems that "stuck in their ways" tanks are posing on others.
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Quote Originally Posted by Klongol View Post
    This entire thread is about the problems presented by a Tank wearing STR accessories and struggles they hoist on a group. I'd hardly call that irrelevant.

    Just go to the DF thread and you'll already seen numerous examples of the problems that "stuck in their ways" tanks are posing on others.
    The problem there is not 270 STR accessories but simply bad tanks. I wager a number of those players don't use CDs or know how to properly handle a mass pull. Putting on Fending gear won't suddenly make them better. They'll just have slightly more wiggle room. None of this changes that STR accessories are optimal right now. You just have to know what you're doing.
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    Ignis Inferne
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    They could just make tank damage scale of vit again and fix tenacity? I dunno, seems like a good start.
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