Tanks using ilv270 STR acessories

[YitharV2]

I will not be embracing this 'alleged' Meta. Was a DRK main in HW, and leveled RDM to 70 first. I'm now leveling my DRK and will use the expansion available accessories.

Maybe you should try it before you say "no not for me". If you think it's all about "hurr durr I want to do more DPS as a tank" you're missing the point. Which is that you hold aggro better with STR accessories. Like, I've seen tanks having problems in tank stance.

That being said, substats from accessories will eventually outweigh the STR bonuses from i270 accessories.

[Klongol]

Maybe you should try it before you say "no not for me". If you think it's all about "hurr durr I want to do more DPS as a tank" you're missing the point. Which is that you hold aggro better with STR accessories.

Did you miss the part where I explained that I'm a Tank main and currently leveling a Tank in SB? I've grouped with tanks who can't hold threat while playing my 70 RDM. on DRK I remain in Tank stance with VIT accessories on and never have problems with threat - I'm certain I won't have problems at 70 either.

The people having problems at 70 are TURNING OFF OR NOT ACTIVATING TANK STANCE to do more damage. I watch it happen. It has nothing to do with STR accessories.

There's no reason to be patronizing.

[Yahallo]

Did you miss the part where I explained that I'm a Tank main and currently leveling a Tank in SB? I've grouped with tanks who can't hold threat while playing my 70 RDM. on DRK I remain in Tank stance with VIT accessories on and never have problems with threat - I'm certain I won't have problems at 70 either.

The people having problems at 70 are TURNING OFF OR NOT ACTIVATING TANK STANCE to do more damage. I watch it happen. It has nothing to do with STR accessories.

There's no reason to be patronizing.

I often keep my tank stance on if it is a pug healer or if the healer is new, as I assume that playing it a little bit safe until I can gauge them a bit better. If I determine that they can handle it, I start dancing. However, even when I do not dance, I have to watch my AoE enmity. Do note that this isn't too much a problem at lower ilvls, but due to the ever increasing damage gap between tanks and dps becomes one at higher and higher ilvls.

[Klongol]

I often keep my tank stance on if it is a pug healer or if the healer is new, as I assume that playing it a little bit safe until I can gauge them a bit better. If I determine that they can handle it, I start dancing. However, even when I do not dance, I have to watch my AoE enmity. Do note that this isn't too much a problem at lower ilvls, but due to the ever increasing damage gap between tanks and dps becomes one at higher and higher ilvls.

Thanks for the measured response. Ill have to see how things go at 70, but my assumption is that it should be fine, as far as threat is concerned.

Out of curiosity do you use STR accessories still or no? I'm currently geared at 62 in full VIT and haven't seen a problem.

[YitharV2]

Did you miss the part where I explained that I'm a Tank main and currently leveling a Tank in SB? I've grouped with tanks who can't hold threat while playing my 70 RDM. on DRK I remain in Tank stance with VIT accessories on and never have problems with threat - I'm certain I won't have problems at 70 either.

The people having problems at 70 are TURNING OFF OR NOT ACTIVATING TANK STANCE to do more damage. I watch it happen. It has nothing to do with STR accessories.

There's no reason to be patronizing.

I've seen tanks have problems with AoE enmity in tank stance. Maybe they were just bad. *shrug*
Or maybe we're actually right that SE should have never reverted the 0.45 VIT AP calculation. It's a literal fact that damage = enmity. That's just how the game works.

And even if it's fine now that doesn't mean it's always going to be fine. You know DPS are just going to get stronger and stronger as item level increases because unlike tanks they get bonuses from main stats and substats on their right side? It's very short-sighted to say "oh it's fine for me it's never going to be a problem". Tenacity sucks and VIT doesn't give AP. Also, Tank stance only gives you 1.5x aggro due to damage loss (Source). Aggro combo might be enough for now, but it's not going to be good enough forever, and SE takes a long time to fix things.

"That's essentially double with a 1.5k-3k difference; that 6-8% increase in disparity added on to how those ranges and the gap between them are going to rise as we gear up, the difference between the two is going to be huge."

[Dualgunner]

Did you miss the part where I explained that I'm a Tank main and currently leveling a Tank in SB? I've grouped with tanks who can't hold threat while playing my 70 RDM. on DRK I remain in Tank stance with VIT accessories on and never have problems with threat - I'm certain I won't have problems at 70 either.

The people having problems at 70 are TURNING OFF OR NOT ACTIVATING TANK STANCE to do more damage. I watch it happen. It has nothing to do with STR accessories.

There's no reason to be patronizing.

RDM is hardly something fair to measure aggro against as it has STUPID amounts of burst. You easily offload anywhere between 600 to 1000 potency in the opening 3 or so global cooldowns, an absolute 0 to 60 type job.

[Klongol]

RDM is hardly something fair to measure aggro against as it has STUPID amounts of burst. You easily offload anywhere between 600 to 1000 potency in the opening 3 or so global cooldowns, an absolute 0 to 60 type job.

I agree that RDM burst is godly - but the tanks that remain in tank stance have a significantly easier time holding threat. As a tank myself I watch for those who are trying to stance dance and 90% of the time that's the issue with threat, at least in my experience. for the 10% of the time I super-crit or somesuch there's Lucid Dream to make up for it.

[Natashio]

LAWLS....with these kinds of attitudes...it's no wonder there's no kind of broad customization in this game..from appearances to stats builds. Everything either gets taken away or nonexistent.

[Inuk9]

LAWLS....with these kinds of attitudes...it's no wonder there's no kind of broad customization in this game..from appearances to stats builds. Everything either gets taken away or nonexistent.

That's not a customization. It's an exploit.

[Natashio]

That's not a customization. It's an exploit.

Whua...? Using ingame items to increase one's damage is now an exploit...Okay...;d