DPS why don't you know your rotations?

[Inuk9]

Saw a ninja doing 500 DPS in the final lv 70 MSQ boss. 500 DPS!!

500 dps is a number for 2.x DPS lol

[Squigley]

ro-ta-zon? spel hard! me hit monster with stick! monster die!

[Feidam]

This doesn't excuse the increased amount of DDs that are dealing less damage than tanks and healers.

It also doesn't excuse tanks and healers thinking they are primo for doing dps and their threeat generation/damage absorption and healing are suffering. The game/expansion just released for crying out loud. Some players adapt quickly others do not. It's not an excuse it is a fact. Also factor in the amount of new players running around. It will take time for things to level out..

[HyoMinPark]

Yes and no...I mean I spent a few hours tweeking and seing what I could improve on DRG opener and I found out what's best for now. As in theory crafting, what's best stats etc now, I have no clue, since nobody been really doing it.

I can't really speak much for DRG since I don't know the job that well, but in terms of BRD and MCH, both jobs were completely overhauled. We both lost a lot of our oGCDs (MCH really got screwed here since their Wildfire burst takes a huge hit with the removal of all those oGCDs they could weave into it), and BRD songs are completely different versus their 2.0/3.0 versions. Some jobs weren't changed too terribly much but, in terms of BRD, I can barely do a semblance of my old 60 rotation/opener now.

For some, it will probably take more than just a few hours to figure out the best opener for the best damage, parser or no parser. And others are just waiting for guides to come out to see what the experts say works.

[Lexia]

I assuming OP is expert at dps jobs since seems to think everyone else sucks.

[Campi]

Just kick the low DPS DDs.
They have to learn their Rotations

[LineageRazor]

The forums is an odd place to be asking this. The vast majority of players who would be reading the forums are folks who DO know they have to research their rotations. The folks the OP is complaining about are the ones who rely on the game itself to explicitly tell them if there's anything important they need to know.

Be aware that folks that actually research this kind of thing online are a MINORITY in this game - and any MMO, for that matter. A decent portion of these in-game-only folks will at least get the gist of what they need to do, well enough to at least perform a combo, but an unfortunate number simply assume that "learned at higher level" = "better skill to use". I remember a WHM that would heal only with Cure III (and either couldn't understand English or wasn't paying attention when we tried to inform him that was not a good thing). After all, Cure III must be better than I or II, right?

This doesn't excuse the increased amount of DDs that are dealing less damage than tanks and healers.

Actually... yeah, it kind of does. Healer and Tank rotations are a whole lot easier to understand and master than DPS rotations. It makes a lot of sense that they'd be the first to reach their damage peaks after SE revamped the system.

[Kazrah]

Just kick the low DPS DDs.
They have to learn their Rotations

Yes, and that usually starts by not grouping with condescending tools.

Seriously, at least bring the problem up and try to offer some help first. Only kick them if they don't feel like listening.

[akaneakki]

Test out and let your hands and head memorize while under pressure dodging aoess are two separate things.

3.8k dps in susano extreme and same in lakashmi, I think I'm good to go.

For some, it will probably take more than just a few hours to figure out the best opener for the best damage, parser or no parser. And others are just waiting for guides to come out to see what the experts say works.

I agree on BRD and MCH, however the BRD in my group spent few hours on dummy and the fights and hes doing fairly well too. 3.5k in lakashmi isn't so bad honestly. You know, the things I told to that other person, the person I quoted I mean... It was sarcastic, since they pro claimed you don't need a parser to maximize openers much as others in the forum say it too, yet some of them follow guides to do the excact same ones too.

I always try find out what's best for me when there is no guide then i see what does more over the time. Most classes flows pretty good now, no doubt, however, people still ignore or try to understand how certain skill works and that alone makes the skil ceiling between players have a huge gap, since most doesn't even bother to read their toolkit.

In all honesty many people doesn't care. I mean... they whine about main story trial needed to be nerfed.- Doesn't that tell you something?

[Sunako]

Only by reading tooltips of your class abilities you should do 70 - 80% potential of your class. But if you want 100% out you need think little more that actually take some effort.