People dont see the big picture. Let's compare a9s pre echo ilvl 270, I might be wrong here. The reason I use a9s is because it's litterly a dummy strike fight.
Great DRG about 8.7k to 2.9k without too much pad, the party comp is BRD NIN MCH DRG SCH and WHM. Decent 2.5k to 2.6k. Weak lower than 2.2k You guys see the difference, just being decent is fine enough.- The DPS numbers might be a little bit off since It's been a while I've seen pre echo due to echo been there for nearly half a year and can't be bothered to check the actually good numbers without big amount of padding included. If you go 700 dps lower than great DRG with the same amount of gear, you doing something terrible wrong. If you are between I would say most (99%) players are fine with it, but when you are rock bottom with the same gear you are pretty bad. Most people dont understand the balance between the both.. just claiming it's hardcore.