DPS why don't you know your rotations?

[technole]

On a side note, the leveling content isnt hard enough to force actually doing the rotation thats best.
Every person I know who refuses to do their rotations, do this because "its not hard enough to require that much effort" (goes back to netflix)

Then they get to endgame, and its not muscle memory, and they mess up their rotations like crazy. (not boss mechanics)

Silly argument.

Even as a good player that knows their rotation, it is drilled in your memory that it's almost hard to mess it up. More like it becomes so awkward to even play it wrong or out of sequence. Like playing current Dragoon rotation correctly, and then going to something abysmal is pretty lousy.

Just that the ones that never read the tooltips start out lousy and never get better, or maybe they are just hitting random buttons. Surely they aren't playing hard enough when they lose GCDs.

[Makeda]

What's honestly stopping you? Genuinely curious.

They've spent the last 2 expansions expecting the healers and tanks to do all the damage while they just loligagged about hitting random buttons.

Now they actually have to learn what the buttons do...

[Raynar-Bloodstrike]

For NOW at least it's likely got a lot to do with people playing new stuff. How many people do you think used a jump and their way of learning was to do dungeons? lol

I used one to jump my SMN but it really only takes 30 minutes or so moving stuff around, reading tooltips, and playing on some striking dummies to figure out at least a passable rotation if not optimal. That's how I figured out RDM too. You don't necessarily NEED a guide. You can figure it out by trying stuff. Hey every cast grants a free cast, what's the best way to optimize that? Man these Verthunder and Veraero casts are so long. If only there was... AHA! etc..

[akaneakki]

I dont get why people say new rotations are harder to grabs or take long. I understand completely there is new rotations but they have lowered the scaling of it. There is no more second dots on classes for melees, there is less waving of Off global cds, there is less ''out of the box'' rotations and more straight forward. What about those who played HW for over a year? Most couldn't grasp those rotation, so it's a little bit silly arguement that people can't get the new rotations. Yes some learn slower than others, but then again it took people over a year to play their class and still couldn't grasp it. Doing a dummy doesn't give you the same amount of dmg or slightly lower in fights, far from it. People I know who does dummy strike easy (sss) fail to perform subpar in actuall content.

[Raynar-Bloodstrike]

Doing a dummy doesn't give you the same amount of dmg or slightly lower in fights, far from it. People I know who does dummy strike easy (sss) fail to perform subpar in actuall content.

Of course it's not the same as an actual fight, but it can certainly give you an idea of what your optimal rotation or priority is. The only other option outside of doing dungeons to learn (which is what a lot of people are complaining about to begin with) is to do fates or something to get a feel, which is a decent option as you have to react and it's more active than a striking dummy, but they do still help you get the basics down easily.

One benefit I've found with striking dummies and target dummies in WoW are the same, is that I can just roll through my rotation or priority list for long period of time to train muscle memory to new keybinds. Also to help me determine if I need to move them. "I use this a lot, so let's switch it to M5 and I'll move that spell to an alt modifier key since I only use it once per minute after they changed it."

[akaneakki]

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They should do dummy strikes like in Blade and Soul if anything. They actually have the boss mechanics or add mechanics on them. If you get hit you take no damage but you learn how to dodge while doing the rotations. They even include the downtime so you know when to pop your cds etc. Blade and Soul has a lot faster combat system too, so it's kinda required for them to have a dummy liek that. However a dumy like that in FF14 would been a great step really. I agree dummy do give you an idea how to use your rotation, but the new rotations are very straight forward than it used to be. They made less dot (1 dot less) and rotations, well combos have the dots included, so it's not as ''complex'' as before. The issue is people don't know when to rotate the debuff,buffs etc up. I'm talking about in a fight not in a dummy strike.

This game forces you to "learn" fast or you will fall behind hence running to YouTube or online guides.

What about those who played heavenswar for over a year and stil slacked? The irony of looking for youtube guides when people say those people are elitist toxic players, but yet they learn from the best aka ''elitist'' they speak of.
I know and I'm pretty sure most know many will still fail a lot of the rotations, even when they made it 50% easier to do. Read on the forum or how players accept help in general on the game, there is the answer of why it's going to be like that still.

[Mature]

The expansion came out a week ISH ago and do you expect people to know all their rotations and what else? Of course let people LEARN

Sadly the VAST majority of players are COPY & PASTE from guides and YouTube.

This game forces you to "learn" fast or you will fall behind hence running to YouTube or online guides.

What annoys me is the people who create a PF and request you to watch a video before joining??? Are people brain dead? Take your time and BLOODY LEARN THE FIGHT AND LEARN YOUR ROTATIONS. And this is coming from people who believe that are pro ... No dears you are all a copy paste.

[Subucnimorning]

Sadly the VAST majority of players are COPY & PASTE from guides and YouTube.

This game forces you to "learn" fast or you will fall behind hence running to YouTube or online guides.

What annoys me is the people who create a PF and request you to watch a video before joining??? Are people brain dead? Take your time and BLOODY LEARN THE FIGHT AND LEARN YOUR ROTATIONS.

You should watch a video before going into the fight. Now that isn't to say because you watched the fight you will be expert, most people learn from doing and not listening. However, watching the video at least makes you somewhat familiar with what the fight is going to throw at you so it lessens the time required to learn the fight. It is a combination thing not a this or that argument

[RobinAnntork]

The issue is that they think they know their rotation, not that they don't want to do it. And with no in-game way to tell if you're doing well or not, there's no indication otherwise.

This so much this! Give us a personal parser please!!

[DubiousDisk]

As a MCH main since HW, it's taken me forever to learn the current rotation, and even then I still feel like I lag behind even despite a lot of people saying I'm doing fine(not to brag)

At this point I'm willing to believe my class is just very "meh" right now.