New PLD should learn how to use their mp effectly...!!!

[eagledorf]

Healer DPS potential is greater than tank DPS for AoE (except Scholar. Lol, delete Scholar from the duty roulette) so you should prioritize Clemency over DPS for large pulls provided you have a healer who DPSes.

That's because casters deal higher damage for the same amount of potency to compensate for having no auto-attacks (I don't know if this is why SE did it this way, but that's how I think of it anyway). However, you only want to use Clemency over Holy Spirit if your healer is out of Assize/Tetragamaton or has already used Essential Dignity because these are essentially free healing.

[Armoota]

Clemency basically gives you 600 potency of enmity per target too, which is approximately the same as a flash (assuming you have missing hp to heal).

I always assume that clemency does increase on enmity just like ff11. Do you have prove about this, i could not find anything related to that?

[Furious]

I always assume that clemency does increase on enmity just like ff11. Do you have prove about this, i could not find anything related to that?

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/wiki/enmity

Healing gives enmity equal to 0.5 points per point healed, but to all aggroed targets. Clemency is a 1200 potency heal, ergo gives 600 potency of enmity (1800/900 if used on someone else and also healing yourself for 50%).

[Faeon]

Snip.

I said "maybe", and if he leveled from 60 - 70 then he/she should know what uses the mp pool and what does not.

Going by the OP's comment I made my own, and I used an example about my experience that I had with a player that I happened to partner up with via RF, and it does not matter if you played prior in the ARR meta or HW meta. and your comment ""They must have used a jump potion" seems to be being used interchangeably with "they are bloody stupid and don't know how to read" quite a lot these days." I have not seen this type of comment made by someone yet. Weather he/she uses a Jump Pot is up to them, I don't really care. But you should atleast know how to play the basics of your Job, since Jump Positions does not jump you to 70, so what did you do between 60 - 70?

Clemency is situational, I found it better to pop it when a big aoe is coming in that will hit the entire group or on yourself as a tank buster hits, or to allow some extra healer dps in, but that has become rare I have noticed.

[Faeon]

I always assume that clemency does increase on enmity just like ff11. Do you have prove about this, i could not find anything related to that?

As Furious has said it does, when a healer heals you it generates enmity, so the same would be if you done it. To my knowledge, I don't think there is anything in the game that says if I heal "then dont gen hate"

[Furious]

As Furious has said it does, when a healer heals you it generates enmity, so the same would be if you done it. To my knowledge, I don't think there is anything in the game that says if I heal "then dont gen hate"

I think he means that clemency in FFXI has some sort of either enmity multiplier or perhaps a flat enmity amount? Bit hard to tell. Anyway as far as FFXIV is concerned, clemency is the same as any other heal with no intrinsic multiplier besides the healing 0.5 multiplier.

[Faeon]

I think he means that clemency in FFXI has some sort of either enmity multiplier or perhaps a flat enmity amount? Bit hard to tell. Anyway as far as FFXIV is concerned, clemency is the same as any other heal with no intrinsic multiplier besides the healing 0.5 multiplier.

Cheers for that.

[aqskerorokero]

I too see a lot of paladins do not even use holy spirit, it is a goddamn nuke, use it whatever possible or requiescat is off cd. unless you have to move or mitigate stuff.

But I guess old habits are hard to die...the 123,124 is imprinted in paladin's mind

[Faeon]

I too see a lot of paladins do not even use holy spirit, it is a goddamn nuke, use it whatever possible or requiescat is off cd. unless you have to move or mitigate stuff.

But I guess old habits are hard to die...the 123,124 is imprinted in paladin's mind

I wish it sounded better though

[AlexSag]

Clemency aside (because, for some reason, that winds up being a controversial discussion), the way PLD plays completely changed in SB. Previously, outside of aoe pulls, you didn't absolutely need to use MP. Now, because of how powerful the modifier for requiescat (my new favorite word) is, holy spirit is how PLD will do a large portion of our damage and MP management to make sure that MP is there as soon as requiescat is available, is a big part of the job. Unfortunately, there's not much in game that stresses this, and frankly, one can get away with the old method of tanking. I think these people will learn in time, and the best thing any of us can do is let ignorant PLD know that way the job plays has changed.