EXP Parties since patch, ftl.

[Manafont]

I'm glad they took the aoe out of it. I agree it can stand some adjustments, but things feel a lot more stable now. I don't like all that chaotic nonsense on my screen. With a battle being so heavily dependent on AOES just makes it a blameless spam fest and rendered sleep useless. Now people have to watch what they are doing, who they are attacking, and being reliable. Again, I agree it could be adjusted more but I am so happy they put a stop to all the retarded aoes.

Wrong my friend, it's still easy aoe down just not so much as a lower level. you know you don't get sleep until42 and repose until 50 as con. How helpful is that? once 42 Stronghold leveling is still grab a bunch of mobs and AOE them down

[Baxter]

Wrong my friend, it's still easy aoe down just not so much as a lower level. you know you don't get sleep until42 and repose until 50 as con. How helpful is that? once 42 Stronghold leveling is still grab a bunch of mobs and AOE them down

past tense/present tense: rendered, renders. But yea lets make everything aoe so we don't have to play the game. We could all just spam aoe weaponskills all day and not worry about strategy.

sounds like the A+ mechanic that made this game the #1 MMO of the yea.......oops.

[Manafont]

past tense/present tense: rendered, renders. But yea lets make everything aoe so we don't have to play the game. We could all just spam aoe weaponskills all day and not worry about strategy.

sounds like the A+ mechanic that made this game the #1 MMO of the yea.......oops.

Yeah lets make things like and make tanks and other melee be useless while low level cause they can't get aggro of all the mobs. Learn the game you bad, learn the screwed up with this patch

[Baxter]

Yeah lets make things like and make tanks and other melee be useless while low level cause they can't get aggro of all the mobs. Learn the game you bad, learn the screwed up with this patch

I'm going to be honest with you. I have no idea what you just said.

[Manafont]

I'm going to be honest with you. I have no idea what you just said.

Exactly, just like you don't understand the game. Beat ifrit at least and then come back to me.

[Thanos]

Yeah lets make things like and make tanks and other melee be useless while low level cause they can't get aggro of all the mobs. Learn the game you bad, learn the screwed up with this patch

I just read this... 6-7 times... what the ef are you trying to say?

[Krausus]

I just read this... 6-7 times... what the ef are you trying to say?

I think he is being sarcastic and his point is killing lower rank AoE significantly lowers kill rates which will slow down level progression.

Others are saying they agree that things should not be able to be AoE so much. IMO AoE makes sense in a game that wants to pit you up against multiple enemies at a time.

Someone also mentioned using sleep >< people should know classes better before they try and use them in arguments lol. This whole thread has a lot of fail in it.

[Dreadnought]

past tense/present tense: rendered, renders. But yea lets make everything aoe so we don't have to play the game. We could all just spam aoe weaponskills all day and not worry about strategy.

sounds like the A+ mechanic that made this game the #1 MMO of the yea.......oops.

wtf at make everything AOE so you dont have to play the game? thats the worse case of nonsense extremism ive seen all day... and i live in los angeles.

first off, only MRD and and CNJ were able to effectively AOE at all. THM wasnt that good at damage so AOEing things didnt really exist for any other class if you remember correctly.

second, having to rely on such a high level spell for your only means of crowd control and LOLOLOL "having to pay attention to what your fighting" brings you right back to the terrible horrible laughable days of early FFXI and LOLOL everquest single mob at a time battles.... which are regarded as terrible ways of grouping by many many people.

Third, #1 games of the modern age rely on a good amount of AOE which is partly why they are popular

Fourth, the battle system has been noted in countless interviews, including recent ones, as being quite slow even when we had AOE. now it is literally slower.

Fifth, the game has a good amount of mob linkage yet all classes, except THMs fire spells and MRDs ending combos, are now all single target. this means MRD is now even more similar to LNC because they are both single target DPS classes- one having a bit more defense. SO why cant we have 1 melee class with 1 or 2 default AOE abilities to help out with damaging more than 1 mob at a time.

Sixth, it speeds things up a bit and many many people find hitting more than just 1 thing at a time is fun in itself.


oh yeah and Seventh, what about soloing leves? do none of your leves spawn more than 1 mob at a time?
i constantly have to fight several mobs during leves at once and not having any AOE options makes things not only more frustrating, but it slows my battles all together. i dont have any enfeebling options to be able to even take on two dodos at once. or like when the last 3 cactuars appear right in front of my face and murder me even though i was able to rock the rest of the entire leve.
I try to take on more than 1 mob at a time during leves anyway because its more fun. now i cant really do that.

[Jennestia]

brings you right back to the terrible horrible laughable days of early FFXI and LOLOL everquest single mob at a time battles.... which are regarded as terrible ways of grouping by many many people.

I remember the days of Everquest and how it was said only people with extreme Gamer ADD and can't look at the same spot for 5 seconds complained about it, which I suppose is why game designers these days make mobs have 10 HP and bosses take at least 3 hits to kill.

[Jinko]

I remember the days of Everquest and how it was said only people with extreme Gamer ADD and can't look at the same spot for 5 seconds complained about it, which I suppose is why game designers these days make mobs have 10 HP and bosses take at least 3 hits to kill.

I think its more to do with people wanting to have fun actually.

That being said I'm glad they have slowed the XP down a bit.