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    Quote Originally Posted by Coglin View Post
    Parties will yield XP at a ridiculously faster rate then Leves.
    i dissagree.
    without AOE abilities the general flow of battle with linked mobs is considerably slower. its also a lot more tedious without any crowd control spells.
    it kinda sucks that partying is so reminiscent of FFXI stationary partying (which i couldnt f*cken STAND)
    the mobs dont have to die as quickly as other MMOs, but having a decent amount of AOE damage is really fun for me.
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    15 abilities each? what is this... Kindergarten?
    A jack of all trades WHM... what is this 1989?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreadnought View Post
    i dissagree.
    without AOE abilities the general flow of battle with linked mobs is considerably slower. its also a lot more tedious without any crowd control spells.
    it kinda sucks that partying is so reminiscent of FFXI stationary partying (which i couldnt f*cken STAND)
    the mobs dont have to die as quickly as other MMOs, but having a decent amount of AOE damage is really fun for me.
    I deleted my post, because I agree that its probably not an extremely large XP benefite in a regular group grind, but I feel its faster none the less, AoE or not. Even with the XP bonus for completing leves. at level 35 you get 2500ish ona leve completion. At 35ish on Young raptors, with chaim bonus your around 700 (I know I was 750-775, but to be safe we will go with 700). So in the time it takes to go back and log more leves I will easly kill many many more then the 4 it takes to make up that small gap.Not to tmention, in a decent party the flo of pulling and killing, is always going to be more consistant then a leve any day and anyway.

    Now on second thought after looking at the 8 leves I did today and the XP I gained, compared to the XP I gained in the few parties I was in shortly after doing a regular grind, I have to say your mistaken. The XP is certainly better in group grinds then leves, hands down.
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    Last edited by Coglin; 12-17-2011 at 04:31 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreadnought View Post
    i dissagree.
    without AOE abilities the general flow of battle with linked mobs is considerably slower. its also a lot more tedious without any crowd control spells.
    it kinda sucks that partying is so reminiscent of FFXI stationary partying (which i couldnt f*cken STAND)
    the mobs dont have to die as quickly as other MMOs, but having a decent amount of AOE damage is really fun for me.
    I'm glad they took the aoe out of it. I agree it can stand some adjustments, but things feel a lot more stable now. I don't like all that chaotic nonsense on my screen. With a battle being so heavily dependent on AOES just makes it a blameless spam fest and rendered sleep useless. Now people have to watch what they are doing, who they are attacking, and being reliable. Again, I agree it could be adjusted more but I am so happy they put a stop to all the retarded aoes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baxter View Post
    I'm glad they took the aoe out of it. I agree it can stand some adjustments, but things feel a lot more stable now. I don't like all that chaotic nonsense on my screen. With a battle being so heavily dependent on AOES just makes it a blameless spam fest and rendered sleep useless. Now people have to watch what they are doing, who they are attacking, and being reliable. Again, I agree it could be adjusted more but I am so happy they put a stop to all the retarded aoes.
    All it did was slow the game play down, waiting to attack on MRD made me laugh. FFXIV, OAP friendly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eugenics View Post
    All it did was slow the game play down, waiting to attack on MRD made me laugh. FFXIV, OAP friendly.
    basically.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baxter View Post
    I'm glad they took the aoe out of it. I agree it can stand some adjustments, but things feel a lot more stable now. I don't like all that chaotic nonsense on my screen. With a battle being so heavily dependent on AOES just makes it a blameless spam fest and rendered sleep useless. Now people have to watch what they are doing, who they are attacking, and being reliable. Again, I agree it could be adjusted more but I am so happy they put a stop to all the retarded aoes.
    Wrong my friend, it's still easy aoe down just not so much as a lower level. you know you don't get sleep until42 and repose until 50 as con. How helpful is that? once 42 Stronghold leveling is still grab a bunch of mobs and AOE them down
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manafont View Post
    Wrong my friend, it's still easy aoe down just not so much as a lower level. you know you don't get sleep until42 and repose until 50 as con. How helpful is that? once 42 Stronghold leveling is still grab a bunch of mobs and AOE them down
    past tense/present tense: rendered, renders. But yea lets make everything aoe so we don't have to play the game. We could all just spam aoe weaponskills all day and not worry about strategy.

    sounds like the A+ mechanic that made this game the #1 MMO of the yea.......oops.
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    Last edited by Baxter; 12-18-2011 at 04:42 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baxter View Post
    past tense/present tense: rendered, renders. But yea lets make everything aoe so we don't have to play the game. We could all just spam aoe weaponskills all day and not worry about strategy.

    sounds like the A+ mechanic that made this game the #1 MMO of the yea.......oops.
    Yeah lets make things like and make tanks and other melee be useless while low level cause they can't get aggro of all the mobs. Learn the game you bad, learn the screwed up with this patch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manafont View Post
    Yeah lets make things like and make tanks and other melee be useless while low level cause they can't get aggro of all the mobs. Learn the game you bad, learn the screwed up with this patch
    I'm going to be honest with you. I have no idea what you just said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baxter View Post
    I'm going to be honest with you. I have no idea what you just said.
    Exactly, just like you don't understand the game. Beat ifrit at least and then come back to me.
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