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    Arutan's Avatar
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    Drae Wellenbrecher
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    Red Mage Lv 90

    Please help me understand pf

    Why are people doing "mount farm lootmaster join order"? This is dumb as hell, why would someone fill the team knowing the mount has less than 2% drop rate and thus farming for nothing? How could you also expect 8 mount drop without ragequitters or hiden ragequitters with false excuses?
    I need to put some logic here this is disturbing me
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    Ship Md
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    No idea, and the people who make the pt are just going to get their mount and bail lol joining those pts is stupid, but if people are gonna fall for it I guess its an easy way to get a guaranteed mount
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    PF is easy to understand, people who join those are suckers. It's impossible to understand suckers. Just don't be one.
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    Andevom Vonskivaux
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    There's a reason you see them in the PF a lot. They don't fill up, because thankfully most people *aren't* that stupid.
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    TBH I see lootmaster parties as scams anyway. Don't join em.

    But there's always the inexperienced and naive that some people will take advantage of...
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    Mim Silmaril
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    Those groups are supposed to sbe 24/7 up and then it doesnt matter if the one who gets the drop leaves.

    If No#1 gets dog and leaves everybody gets a place forward and a new 8th joins.
    Someone leaves, someone new comes, this doesn't affect your position in a bad way.

    It is no scam if the one who gets the pony leaves, as long as it was his turn.
    You just don't get the system. They're not ment to consist of the same 8 people until everbody has their loot...


    I'm not saying that I would use this system, but for some people it works.
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    Last edited by Neophyte; 06-27-2017 at 01:24 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neophyte View Post
    Those groups are supposed to sbe 24/7 up and then it doesnt matter if the one who gets the drop leaves.

    If No#1 gets dog and leaves everybody gets a place forward and a new 8th joins.
    Someone leaves, someone new comes, this doesn't affect your position in a bad way.

    It is no scam if the one who gets the pony leaves, as long as it was his turn.
    You just don't get the system. They're not ment to consist of the same 8 people until everbody has their loot...


    I'm not saying that I would use this system, but for some people it works.
    I see your point but I don't know any team that would keep going once someone leave lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neophyte View Post
    It is no scam if the one who gets the pony leaves, as long as it was his turn.
    Which basically means you're farming a 2% drop for the leader of the party, who will probably leave when he has it, if you see it drop at all.

    I suppose, like the lottery, you could see it as a math tax instead of a scam.
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    Veliona Umrtia
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    The biggest incentive to join this groups is to avoid the myriad of terrible EX groups in PF that claim to be "clear" groups that repeatedly wipe the raid with the same mechanic over and over ie. People not moving with lightning markers on Sus ex, if and only if you still need your 320 weapon/accessories, outside of that I wouldn't touch these PF groups with a 50 foot pole. Just my experience with it.
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    Luna Faye
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    Weaver Lv 51
    It's just like vote abandon or kicking a player from a duty. People don't read, and agree to everything that just pops up on their screen, so some do not even notice that they are joining a loot master party, hence the drama during or after the runs. Others don't mind joining these kind of parties, if they are just looking for light farming (old relics), or tomes, WT etc. At least you can make plenty of players upset, following this kind of strategic, sometimes that's the most entertaining part of the whole game. I personally think, that if a player can't be bothered, wasting 2 seconds of their time and reading the PF description, they deserve being in a party that gives only the leader a mount, or is up to the mercy/courtesy of the party leader. But after all there's no specific logic to that lol
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