A Plea to the Community: Long Queues

[Icywebs]

Hello everyone!

I will endeavor to keep this succinct.

I have recently seen in channels and broadcasted in shout different methods wherein one can ignore the 30 minute idle boot, thus avoiding the horrendous queues to get back onto the server. And who wants to be stuck in the queues?

The problem with this is that while you go off to work or go to bed and your character is comfy and cozy in the game, either set to running in circles or the other methods that are employed, other people are unable to get on. Since people are not logging off indefinitely, there is no room for the next person to get on.

This means that it takes 3 1/2 - 4 hours to login.

"Clever me" one might think.

It's not. If people quit doing this, the queue would move quicker, and it wouldn't be as big of a problem.

Please stop spreading your exploits, and for those doing them, please stop.

[LanceAurion]

It's not even that, people also just stand there near Summoning bells in the dialog box preventing kicking, it's really bad when one has to get up at 4 am to just play. I mean gods forbid you log off, I've been trying since 11 am and hasn't gotten lower than 1,666 without a crash pushing me back to 2-3k. I know people will say why don't you leave if you want to play, and my rebuttal I have family and friends on the server, if people would just log off instead of having the game idle for 8+ hours if a full-time job, just log out and come back tomorrow or later.

[CaptainFishSticks]

There is no reason why I should be sitting at position 2,702 for thirty minutes in the queue.

This exploit seriously needs to go away. I'm sick and tired of people selfish enough to hold a place on the server, preventing others from logging in.

[Hrafe]

We are going to continue to have long queues for a time, there is no illusion to the contrary. However before many began circumvent the AFK timeout the queue at least moved at a steady rate of turnover as opposed to the slow crawl we have now.

[Alisyn]

Unfortunately, I don't think this post is going to do anything other than tell more players, "There's a way to skip the line!". We're all feeling desperate to play, especially those who have a hour or two a night to be on, and they spend every second of that in a queue. My FC has people who haven't been in game more than a hour or so since the expansion hit because they work normal hours and are screwed.

It's not the populations fault that this happened either. SE had Balmung locked from character creation for months (even years) now, and they should have also locked transfers way back so we wouldn't end up with this issue. I get they also think that spamming us with "server is congested, move to another" will fix the issue, but it's only making their customers more upset since they are looking to us to fix their dilemma.

So while I feel your pain, I really do feel this will only create more issues. Humans are inherently self seeking & we're all in this ordeal.

[Thortok2000]

Did you ever entertain even the slightest possibility that maybe there's just that many people online and playing and not logging off---not due to afk exploits---but because they're actually playing?

At non-peak times, the queue drops SIGNIFICANTLY. At around 6am, 7am eastern for instance, there isn't even a queue at all.

If people were really afk exploiting around the clock, there'd be queues around the clock.

The server is just that crowded. Get over it. If you won't move because of your friends and family, then get your friends and family to move with you, I'm sure they're as fed up with the queue times as you are.

[Icywebs]

Oh yes, there are plenty of people ACTUALLY playing, and also a lot of those who advertise how to exploit the system and brag about having gone to work and coming home to skip the lines. Which is super attractive to people. This is in shouts, this is in the Novice Network, and this is in various linkshell conversations.

It was after those things started being shared quite openly that the 4k queue went from taking about an hour to taking 4+ hours. So, while I appreciate that we are just on a populated server, which inherently has congestion issues that we should expect, I also think that it is worth appealing to people who ARE exploiting the system and exacerbating an already slow queue.

[Morphiana]

Please be sure to look at the feedback threads where this is being discussed. We can bring it to SE's attention so they can hopefully patch it!

[Nixxe]

Absolutely. If people weren't just using workarounds for the auto timeout, there probably wouldn't even be a queue. Everyone do your part and logout when you finish playing!

[Elamys]

Did you ever entertain even the slightest possibility that maybe there's just that many people online and playing and not logging off---not due to afk exploits---but because they're actually playing?

At non-peak times, the queue drops SIGNIFICANTLY. At around 6am, 7am eastern for instance, there isn't even a queue at all.

If people were really afk exploiting around the clock, there'd be queues around the clock.

This thing about queues not being around the clock has a really easy explanation, you know.

Late at night, most of the active players leave, leaving the AFK exploiters. During the day, the active players return and take up the remaining spots, plus more, because despite how many there are staying logged in, people actually queueing are in the majority.

If you honestly think people aren't exploiting the AFK timer, feel free to go check out the summoning bells at Kugane.