Extreme Undercutting - Should it be a violation?

[Auteur]

Speaking as a crafter, I think the free market system is preferable to setting limits on what price a player can set. There is far too much potential for abuse once limits are set.
No one likes being undercut, but that's how a free market system works. Please don't change this.

But Comrade, COMMUNISM!

[Paladinleeds]

I'm curious, is there any way to have this thread locked? I think it's safe to say it has outlived its usefulness (if it ever was useful). I had thought that it had simply died off, but seems it's still being picked up. Might be best to just have it shut down.

[Annah]

No. this should never be a violation. As a Miner and a seller of goods and a maker of gil, I say let them undercut.

When they undercut, I simply buy it and put it right back on the boards. Sorry, it's just playing the market. If they want to under cut for a quick buck Ill be happy to oblige

Edit: annnnnnnnnnnnd I had already posted on this thread lol >.<

[Darren777]

Greifing ? No not at all. If you are stupid enough to put things up for sale at 90% lower than market value I'm sure there are enough players to buy those items then list them at 99% of current market and make a great profit.

[Scenic]

You are assuming these extreme undercutters are checking to see what items are going for and not just posting stuff for quick sale. Not everyone is trying to drop market prices, they might just be clearing out there bags.

[mattymaats]

Hi,

I would appreciate if you could please send me an in-game mail every time you're listing something so I can go ahead and buy it to relist at a higher price, thank you in advance!

Your market price guardian,
Matty

[Tint]

you know, you do the undercutters a favor by buying all the stuff.

too bad we are not at the same server, someone who buys ANYTHING i throw at him is very nice to have.

since you payed for the items you have to sell the stuff for the doubled price to make the same amount of profit. is that possible? especially if the undercutters just undercut you again, since the stuff sold that good, maybe they should put even more on the market?

[Paladinleeds]

since you payed for the items you have to sell the stuff for the doubled price to make the same amount of profit. is that possible? especially if the undercutters just undercut you again, since the stuff sold that good, maybe they should put even more on the market?

Exactly, and some people might look at the purchase history, see a lot of them going for less than the amount the other people wanted, and start also flooding in at that price. I realise my OP may have been phrased and handled horribly, but it has sparked some good points, like this one.

[mattymaats]

It's the same in most MMOs with a free market, it's not about making the same markup, sometimes a small markup can net you a lot if there's a high turnover but I can make even more like I can buy items for 30k and sell them for 150k majority of the time. It's all about knowing how often an item sells as some items aren't worth flipping as they hardly sell and then what you can charge for it so it's really easy to make money just flipping stuff. Aye you can get undercut here and there but in the end you'll sell the item most of the time it just takes a little longer. When I played ESO I never crafted or anything on that side I made all of my money from flipping items from one market to another but it is a lot harder here without the addons xD

[mattymaats]

Exactly, and some people might look at the purchase history, see a lot of them going for less than the amount the other people wanted, and start also flooding in at that price. I realise my OP may have been phrased and handled horribly, but it has sparked some good points, like this one.

Only zombies would do that or a new player.. You'll rarely get people who just list items super cheap because they don't know what they're doing and people who purposely crash markets are the worst kind as I remember when it happened with Wakfu and it ruined the game for everyone else for a long time.