Page 3 of 3 FirstFirst 1 2 3
Results 21 to 30 of 30

Thread: Balck MAge 4.0

  1. #21
    Player
    Kabooa's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Posts
    4,391
    Character
    Jace Ossura
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Goldsmith Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrasper View Post
    Drain is nothing and worthless compared to the old physic which gave you more back even if it was a little. Drain isn't on my cross-role because it is useless compared to the other ones I have.
    This is completely !@#%ing wrong.
    (0)

  2. #22
    Player
    Ferrasper's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Posts
    438
    Character
    Doctor Fumbles
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    This is completely !@#%ing wrong.
    How so? How does drain beat swiftcast, surecast, mana shift, diversion, and erase?
    (0)

  3. #23
    Player
    Kabooa's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Posts
    4,391
    Character
    Jace Ossura
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Goldsmith Lv 100
    First point: Physic in its form would not heal more than Drain. 400 potency mind based loses to 80 potency int based, because in no scenario is your mind 20% of your intelligence. Close to 12, or 10%. It also deals damage which -helps you kill the thing killing you- where physic does not.

    Second point: None of those other skills heal you, so if the point of order is "Physic is superior to drain because it heals me" then those skill choices are irrelevant. -They don't heal you-.

    Drain isn't on my bar either, but it isn't because it's 'worse than physic'
    (1)

  4. #24
    Player
    Ferrasper's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Posts
    438
    Character
    Doctor Fumbles
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    First point: Physic in its form would not heal more than Drain. 400 potency mind based loses to 80 potency int based, because in no scenario is your mind 20% of your intelligence. Close to 12, or 10%. It also deals damage which -helps you kill the thing killing you- where physic does not.

    Second point: None of those other skills heal you, so if the point of order is "Physic is superior to drain because it heals me" then those skill choices are irrelevant. -They don't heal you-.

    Drain isn't on my bar either, but it isn't because it's 'worse than physic'
    Oh, that is what you are going on about. Even if it does more healing, I still don't say worth the taking. Don't get me wrong physic was shitty, but I don't think either drain or if we still had physic would be worth taking.
    (0)

  5. #25
    Player
    Kabooa's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Posts
    4,391
    Character
    Jace Ossura
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Goldsmith Lv 100
    Chocobos outclass both in either case, but Drain has a niche use, which is what the role actions are supposed to be.

    That said, Luminous Aether should be on your list somewhere for the threat drop. The ability to flare/foul bomb and then dump that hate instantly (or alternate it with diversion) is incredibly useful, or even for bosses if your tanks feel like dropping threat stance.
    (0)

  6. #26
    Player
    Ferrasper's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Posts
    438
    Character
    Doctor Fumbles
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    Chocobos outclass both in either case, but Drain has a niche use, which is what the role actions are supposed to be.

    That said, Luminous Aether should be on your list somewhere for the threat drop. The ability to flare/foul bomb and then dump that hate instantly (or alternate it with diversion) is incredibly useful, or even for bosses if your tanks feel like dropping threat stance.
    Luminous Aether? That's what I don't understand when they say niche. Most of the cross class skills are basically mandatory if you want to do well, so I can't really say they are niche.
    (0)

  7. #27
    Player
    Genoreaper's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2015
    Posts
    212
    Character
    Geno Reaper
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 90
    Why are you using erase to level? It's anyone but you.

    I suggest you try red mage, hits like a truck and easier.

    Blm is in one of the best spots ive seen in a long time, even in pvp it's doing well
    (0)

  8. #28
    Player
    Ferrasper's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Posts
    438
    Character
    Doctor Fumbles
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Genoreaper View Post
    Why are you using erase to level? It's anyone but you.

    I suggest you try red mage, hits like a truck and easier.

    Blm is in one of the best spots ive seen in a long time, even in pvp it's doing well
    I am done leveling, and I do have a RDM. I still prefer BLM to be my main though because it does better explosions. It has also been my main since 2.0, so no way am I leaving it now.
    (0)

  9. #29
    Player
    Fyce's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2013
    Posts
    1,755
    Character
    Fyce Alvey
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 100
    After reading the title of this thread, I can confirm that BLM is in a terrible position, as they can't even spell.

    ...



    K, I'm out.
    (0)

  10. #30
    Player
    Maero's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Location
    Gridania
    Posts
    4,781
    Character
    I'shtola Maqa
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    I also had not had any issues and level 70 blm with foul is delicious.
    No jobs come close to blm aoe now.
    I do not use Luminous aether but the other one for aggro.

    Feel slightly bad for smn
    *slightly
    (0)

Page 3 of 3 FirstFirst 1 2 3