Is Tenacity working as intended?

[Lewtskie]

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Every job holds its own stat weights, and some stats take the lead. To say that Crit + DH is the catch all is wrong. Both function essentially the same in there being a window of no affect/affect. DH has the higher proc with lower effect, but Crit is highly important to jobs with Crit tied to their mechanics. But the issue lies in you are relying primarily on RNG, even if it may have a higher frequency. Consider DH to be the new crit for non crit-reliant DPS, combined with either SS or DET depending which holds greater weight for them. Think of it either way as Crit and DH will either be the first or third in order of stats for whatever role. It's still very useful, but too much reliance will hamper you.

[Kumori_Kumo]

Well, apparently this is "Not a Bug Report" since the thread was moved to that area.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ng-as-intended

Wow. The single most irritating way they could've responded.
Apparently it's none of our business whether this tanking stat works or not.
I give up.

[Derio]

Wow so pretty much pointless to meld tenacity

[curather]

DEVs stating that tenacity would be more beneficial than parry....such BS and the spite that they know it is!

[Ulthimar]

DEVs stating that tenacity would be more beneficial than parry....such BS and the spite that they know it is!

Oh its more beneficial, tenacity improves tanks by .001% where as parry improved tanks by .0001%. See how much more beneficial that is? Its 10 times better!

[Pileus_Storm]

No you think I'm relying on RNG. That's not what it is . That's how you understand it. You have interpreted it that way because it's easier for you to focus on one stat for results instead of juggling multiple stats. Mainly, because your perspective of this game is low. It's the sentiment of most MMO fans who play multiple MMO's. I think you and others like you think that any foreign games can't come up with anything more complex than what you are use to. This is why it's compared to other games. That's the denial. RNG is a term based on an absence of data.

I'm not relying on anything. So we are playing a game to where VIT and STR combine to make ATT PWR but the other stats are independent., says who? Your understanding. This is a problem in the FFXIV community. Too many players think that their one dimensional perspectives are the way things are. They couldn't possibly developed a game better than WoW. If you think the stats don't compliment other stats then play it that way.

[Jim_Berry]

How do you know it isn't from the better defense on your gear?

The returns on tenacity have already been posted......they are poor.

At the time of my post, it was because I was using the same gear, removed the Melds, and added Tenacity. Maybe it's a mental thing.

I may be moving back to Crit/Det/Skill Speed, though. Unlike in Heavensward, I'm finding myself now being able to juggle both stances. Since auto-attacks affect how fast Sword Oath gauge fills up, Skill Speed seems ideal, especially when I'm OT in Susano, to toss Intervention on the MT while Stormsplitter is casting.

[Falar]

Pretty sure there is a post here from the devs that the SkS changes were misleading, and it affects their potency, not their frequency.

[Kalocin]

At the time of my post, it was because I was using the same gear, removed the Melds, and added Tenacity. Maybe it's a mental thing.

I may be moving back to Crit/Det/Skill Speed, though. Unlike in Heavensward, I'm finding myself now being able to juggle both stances. Since auto-attacks affect how fast Sword Oath gauge fills up, Skill Speed seems ideal, especially when I'm OT in Susano, to toss Intervention on the MT while Stormsplitter is casting.

Skillspeed only affects auto attack damage apparently, not their speed.

[Faeon]

That is correct its not frequency, it affects the dmg like pld's cos. It can reduce your gcd but the amount you need is stupid