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    Meh! I'm at 1K+ tenacity on my PLD, and my survival rate increased from a defensive perspective. It gives healers more time to dps if they want without worrying about me losing a lot of HP.

    I do Tenacity > Determination, but I think I want to put some Direct Hit in there. I'll see when I start buying Verity gear (I have Tomes, but haven't bought anything yet).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    My post reduces more damage then parry does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim_Berry View Post
    Meh! I'm at 1K+ tenacity on my PLD, and my survival rate increased from a defensive perspective. It gives healers more time to dps if they want without worrying about me losing a lot of HP.

    I do Tenacity > Determination, but I think I want to put some Direct Hit in there. I'll see when I start buying Verity gear (I have Tomes, but haven't bought anything yet).
    How do you know it isn't from the better defense on your gear?

    The returns on tenacity have already been posted......they are poor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Falar View Post
    How do you know it isn't from the better defense on your gear?

    The returns on tenacity have already been posted......they are poor.
    At the time of my post, it was because I was using the same gear, removed the Melds, and added Tenacity. Maybe it's a mental thing.

    I may be moving back to Crit/Det/Skill Speed, though. Unlike in Heavensward, I'm finding myself now being able to juggle both stances. Since auto-attacks affect how fast Sword Oath gauge fills up, Skill Speed seems ideal, especially when I'm OT in Susano, to toss Intervention on the MT while Stormsplitter is casting.
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    Last edited by Jim_Berry; 06-29-2017 at 09:48 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    My post reduces more damage then parry does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim_Berry View Post
    At the time of my post, it was because I was using the same gear, removed the Melds, and added Tenacity. Maybe it's a mental thing.

    I may be moving back to Crit/Det/Skill Speed, though. Unlike in Heavensward, I'm finding myself now being able to juggle both stances. Since auto-attacks affect how fast Sword Oath gauge fills up, Skill Speed seems ideal, especially when I'm OT in Susano, to toss Intervention on the MT while Stormsplitter is casting.
    Skillspeed only affects auto attack damage apparently, not their speed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalocin View Post
    Skillspeed only affects auto attack damage apparently, not their speed.

    Skillspeed affects the amount of damage in DoT and recast timers of weaponskills not auto attack. Auto attack is not DoT. The speed and frequency in which your auto attack occurs is on the weapon. It's the AUTO-ATTACK and DELAY.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pileus_Storm View Post
    Skillspeed affects the amount of damage in DoT and recast timers of weaponskills not auto attack. Auto attack is not DoT. The speed and frequency in which your auto attack occurs is on the weapon. It's the AUTO-ATTACK and DELAY.
    Skill Speed now has a minor damage increase on auto-attacks since SB's release. Read the Patch Notes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Driavna View Post
    What I wonder is why SE don't give us enough info right away like many other MMO's.
    Could be they enjoy when the community of a game theorycrafts and runs calculations, or might be just that they don't like showing the tools and framework. I'd at least like to think it's more than just paranoia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewtskie View Post
    Skill Speed now has a minor damage increase on auto-attacks since SB's release. Read the Patch Notes.
    Now they need to add it to the attributes explanation on the lodestone or it's not a fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pileus_Storm View Post
    Skillspeed affects the amount of damage in DoT and recast timers of weaponskills not auto attack. Auto attack is not DoT. The speed and frequency in which your auto attack occurs is on the weapon. It's the AUTO-ATTACK and DELAY.
    4.0 notes, they're a good read. Also, damnit, beaten.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    4.0 notes, they're a good read. Also, damnit, beaten.
    It's in the notes but it's not on the lodestones description. Why should ppl have to search thru the patch notes to find updates?
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