Is Tenacity working as intended?

[Pileus_Storm]

But... Crit doesn't have any impact whatsoever on DH. They are two wholly independent stats that can merely stack if the rng lines up right. It's the DH that crits, its that your attack both registered a DH and a Crit. And its easy to see the flaw in your idea that both would need to work in conjunction, because both would need reliable weights unto themselves and right now one is gimped and another is still 'okay'. Besides that, if they are now pushing for Tanks to only have both for there to be significant effect... then they need to just stop.

So the idea you have is to use the HIT stat you want to use? Not get both. Just one? So you would choose whichever one gave you the highest damage and highest rates of HITS? In my perspective, if you can increase your DIRECT HIT you can also increase your CRITICAL HIT. The flaw is in your logic to think they are independent when they are in the same group of properties. That's like saying DET doesn't effect DIRECT HIT or CRITICAL HIT and it shouldn't affect the output of damage done from ATTACK POWER. This is why I made my comment.

[Lewtskie]

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Every job holds its own stat weights, and some stats take the lead. To say that Crit + DH is the catch all is wrong. Both function essentially the same in there being a window of no affect/affect. DH has the higher proc with lower effect, but Crit is highly important to jobs with Crit tied to their mechanics. But the issue lies in you are relying primarily on RNG, even if it may have a higher frequency. Consider DH to be the new crit for non crit-reliant DPS, combined with either SS or DET depending which holds greater weight for them. Think of it either way as Crit and DH will either be the first or third in order of stats for whatever role. It's still very useful, but too much reliance will hamper you.

[Pileus_Storm]

No you think I'm relying on RNG. That's not what it is . That's how you understand it. You have interpreted it that way because it's easier for you to focus on one stat for results instead of juggling multiple stats. Mainly, because your perspective of this game is low. It's the sentiment of most MMO fans who play multiple MMO's. I think you and others like you think that any foreign games can't come up with anything more complex than what you are use to. This is why it's compared to other games. That's the denial. RNG is a term based on an absence of data.

I'm not relying on anything. So we are playing a game to where VIT and STR combine to make ATT PWR but the other stats are independent., says who? Your understanding. This is a problem in the FFXIV community. Too many players think that their one dimensional perspectives are the way things are. They couldn't possibly developed a game better than WoW. If you think the stats don't compliment other stats then play it that way.

[Kabooa]

Saying FF14 has a complex stat system just made my day. Thank you. I haven't laughed that hard in a while.

[Pileus_Storm]

Saying FF14 has a complex stat system just made my day. Thank you. I haven't laughed that hard in a while.

That was the intention.

[Derio]

Wow so pretty much pointless to meld tenacity

[curather]

DEVs stating that tenacity would be more beneficial than parry....such BS and the spite that they know it is!

[Ulthimar]

DEVs stating that tenacity would be more beneficial than parry....such BS and the spite that they know it is!

Oh its more beneficial, tenacity improves tanks by .001% where as parry improved tanks by .0001%. See how much more beneficial that is? Its 10 times better!

[Falar]

Pretty sure there is a post here from the devs that the SkS changes were misleading, and it affects their potency, not their frequency.

[Faeon]

That is correct its not frequency, it affects the dmg like pld's cos. It can reduce your gcd but the amount you need is stupid