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    Welp, they moved it to Insufficient Information. I dunno how much more they want, so does someone else want to take a stab at it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kumori_Kumo View Post
    Welp, they moved it to Insufficient Information. I dunno how much more they want, so does someone else want to take a stab at it?
    You gave no world, no character, no class, no level, no specification on party, solo, or both, no location.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EusisLandale View Post
    You gave no world, no character, no class, no level, no specification on party, solo, or both, no location.
    But that's completely irrelev-
    *sigh*
    It's like being in the DMV. Alright, since nobody else is going to do it, I'll try again.

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...78#post4241378
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kumori_Kumo View Post
    But that's completely irrelev-
    *sigh*
    It's like being in the DMV. Alright, since nobody else is going to do it, I'll try again.

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...78#post4241378
    Most people don't bother with bug reports largely because it's worse than the DMV. Every last stupid detail needs to be filled in, down to the information about what sort of computer or console you're using and everything plugged into them, to not run the risk of getting dumped off into insufficient information. It's just stats, so just character information should be fine but you never know.
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    Lipstick on a pig. SE excels at that "solution" to their problems.
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    Claire Pendragon
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    I would be perfectly fine with Tenacity being worse than DET, if it were at least roughly 90-95% of what DET is worth, this way the endgame amount of Tenacity stacked might add like 3% dmg mitigation, plus nearly the amount of DPS increase of DET.

    (Not that everyone would agree, but id be pretty comfy with it)
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    CLAIRE PENDRAGON

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    Well, apparently this is "Not a Bug Report" since the thread was moved to that area.

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ng-as-intended
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulthimar View Post
    Well, apparently this is "Not a Bug Report" since the thread was moved to that area.

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ng-as-intended
    Wow. The single most irritating way they could've responded.
    Apparently it's none of our business whether this tanking stat works or not.
    I give up.
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    Duraego Miushrah
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    I think this game is a bit too complex for ppl who like shiny things.
    For example, These attributes work in combination or they simply compliment one another. Kind of like the old attributes DEX and STR. One triggered a block the other mitigated damage when a block occured. So, the players said NOPE because it doesn't work well for a job that has no blocking ability (WAR). So now we are here with Tenacity and ppl are loading up on TEN not even applying it how it's defined because the only thing that matters is that shiny thing called damage. TEN mitigates damage as well, so the numbers are probably low to balance both damage being dealt and mitigated. But wait, there is another attribute to account for called DET. It also increases damage being dealt. Yet, there's another attribute that increases that called DIRECT HIT(!) and it is increased by another attribute CRITICAL HIT(!!). When ppl apply all this and don't get high results then they have something to complain about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pileus_Storm View Post
    Yet, there's another attribute that increases that called DIRECT HIT(!) and it is increased by another attribute CRITICAL HIT(!!). When ppl apply all this and don't get high results then they have something to complain about.
    But... Crit doesn't have any impact whatsoever on DH. They are two wholly independent stats that can merely stack if the rng lines up right. It's the DH that crits, its that your attack both registered a DH and a Crit. And its easy to see the flaw in your idea that both would need to work in conjunction, because both would need reliable weights unto themselves and right now one is gimped and another is still 'okay'. Besides that, if they are now pushing for Tanks to only have both for there to be significant effect... then they need to just stop.
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