Quote Originally Posted by Kinkoz View Post
But, see, you had to tack on an additional qualifier to make your case, which means that, as the Job currently stands, Summoner is not a Tank. Nor would it likely be made such even with additions to the abilities of Titan-Egi, but that's just my speculation based on the functions of its other combat pets.

I mean, Monk has a defensive stance and CAN certainly tank for a short time in a party under very extreme circumstances, but that doesn't necessarily qualify it to fill a dedicated Tank role in a party. Not with the way roles currently work in game.
You're not disproving his point. He thinks with the additions it could tank, and I say with some modifications it could tank, but to be balanced, the SMN would then have to deal considerably less dmg, so as not to be a DPS.
(Of course we could amp up dps, titan, and even heals, and make a SMN all roles in one, but thats not the argument being presented.)

As it stands, SMN is a DPS with minor tanking options, but not enough to actually tank all content.

And by your logic, a PLD, WAR, and DRK arent tanks, because they need their gear to survive tank busters. Not their own natural abilities, which arent their own, but something else, because aether that makes egi's is no different than the aether thats used to make shield oath, grit, etc.