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    The thing is people should not be mad if someone DOESNT bring Shirk!! I have dipped into the Savage content and V1s doesn't even need a tank swap. matter of fact a lot of the content in this 4.x doesn't need a tank swaps per say like they did in heavenwards, but its still early in stormblood so who knows. I do use Shirk and I agree it is a great ability. my thing is that people shouldn't tell someone they have to bring it and people shouldn't clown someone for using it thinking they are bad tank from what I read on the forums. Its a good skill BY NO means is it required but a great skill and if you run with a static or looking for one most likely you will be using it, if not and just play in groups at you own pace and still get things done its not needed but again great skill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LegolasT View Post
    The thing is people should not be mad if someone DOESNT bring Shirk!! I have dipped into the Savage content and V1s doesn't even need a tank swap. matter of fact a lot of the content in this 4.x doesn't need a tank swaps per say like they did in heavenwards, but its still early in stormblood so who knows. I do use Shirk and I agree it is a great ability. my thing is that people shouldn't tell someone they have to bring it and people shouldn't clown someone for using it thinking they are bad tank from what I read on the forums. Its a good skill BY NO means is it required but a great skill and if you run with a static or looking for one most likely you will be using it, if not and just play in groups at you own pace and still get things done its not needed but again great skill.

    I loose out on DPS when the other tank is not using Shirk. I have to use my emnity combo after each swap, because the other tank rather prefers Awareness, which to me falls in the same catagory as Anticipation. Something you cannot rely on, is not worth taking over something you can rely on. This means there's only 5 useful role skills you can have.
    Provoke, Rampart, Convalescence, Reprisal and Shirk.

    For 4 man content you can swap out whatever you like, for raids you bring the best tools for the job, your other tank (and 6 other people) expect you too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LegolasT View Post
    The thing is people should not be mad if someone DOESNT bring Shirk!! I have dipped into the Savage content and V1s doesn't even need a tank swap. matter of fact a lot of the content in this 4.x doesn't need a tank swaps per say like they did in heavenwards, but its still early in stormblood so who knows. I do use Shirk and I agree it is a great ability. my thing is that people shouldn't tell someone they have to bring it and people shouldn't clown someone for using it thinking they are bad tank from what I read on the forums. Its a good skill BY NO means is it required but a great skill and if you run with a static or looking for one most likely you will be using it, if not and just play in groups at you own pace and still get things done its not needed but again great skill.
    1. It's not just for tankswaps
    2. It actively nerfs the other tank not bringing it
    3. Nothing else better to take
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    Shirk has so many uses, this has probably been said before but this is how I use it:

    1.) makes tank swaps really easy (not that it was ever hard)
    2.) in the example of Lakshmi ex when im OT I can shirk the MT then voke to guarantee I have 2nd most hate by a large margin.
    3.) when im OT and no tank swaps necessary, you can voke then shirk the MT so the MT never has to enter tank stance short of heavy tankbusters (as a DRK when im MT I wish more OTs did this as everything outside damage combos is a big dps nerf)
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    Quote Originally Posted by LegolasT View Post
    The thing is people should not be mad if someone DOESNT bring Shirk!! I have dipped into the Savage content and V1s doesn't even need a tank swap. matter of fact a lot of the content in this 4.x doesn't need a tank swaps per say like they did in heavenwards, but its still early in stormblood so who knows. I do use Shirk and I agree it is a great ability. my thing is that people shouldn't tell someone they have to bring it and people shouldn't clown someone for using it thinking they are bad tank from what I read on the forums. Its a good skill BY NO means is it required but a great skill and if you run with a static or looking for one most likely you will be using it, if not and just play in groups at you own pace and still get things done its not needed but again great skill.
    It's like any other play optimization. I get upset if a healer doesn't have Esuna on fights that use it, I'll get upset if someone doesn't have Shirk in 8-man.
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