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Thread: Why Shirk?

  1. #11
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    Falar's Avatar
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    Kane Blackstone
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    Shirk is amazing. If I am the OT I use it to give the MT extra enmity as well.

    With a NIN in the group also.....fun times to be had.
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    I think it's useful in Emanation EX. What I think I'm seeing is the off tank provoke and then shirk the main tank so he stays at #2 on the enmity list so he's always targeted by the blue marker cleave. Otherwise, Shirk would be good at any point where you'd want to go all out and not have to worry about taking the mob back from the main tank if that's still a thing.
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    Hruodig Hruodiger
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    Shirk is a godsend. You can do tank swaps without ever having to hit an aggro combo, you can just keep dpsing no problem. It also keeps you and your co-tank further away from that monk/samurai in your party.
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    Furious Laughter
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    Tank A (in tank stance) has 100% (top) threat.
    Tank B (in dps stance) has whatever threat, doesn't matter.

    Tank B Provokes, Tank A shirks. Tank B now has 125% threat instantly.
    Tank A Provokes back, Tank B shirks. Tank A now has 156% threat in 2 gcds, if required.

    Basically speaking, the tanks can, whenever they want to, up to once per two minutes, give themselves a free 56% threat increase on current threat. It doesn't rely on the generation of threat from the offtank at all; the only number that matters is the current threat of the main tank. Provoke sets the offtank to the same value, then shirk increases from there.

    You don't have to use them together either; even just using on tank swaps effectively cements the new tank without any issue whatsoever. As soon as you see the enmity change from provoke, you shirk, and they are 100% tanking.
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    Talya Stormbreaker
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    Shirk is for tank swaps. It's not necessary for vanilla dungeon runs but it's been great for swapping back and forth with Susano EX and I will be bringing it into Omega.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalmacus View Post
    Shirk right now is probably for world prog groups since i've been doing the new primal extreme none of them bother doing shirk except for me so i guess if your casual player you can just bring provoke just fine.

    If your attempting world prog/savage content bring shirk.
    i disagree. this is the most powerful sill they gave tanks hands down, it is at this point a mandatory skill to have in any 8 man content and tanks should be forcing swaps to fully utilize how broken and op it is. doesnt need to be world 1st or savage t use this. also may help fix stupid since i keep running into a bunch of brain dead tanks staying in grit/shield/defiance after a swap.
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    Also, no other skill is worth taking over shirk in 8 man content
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    I usual shirk on to a melee dps because all the tanks self sustain went to them.
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