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    Hierro's Avatar
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    Ziero Rehw-bidit
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    Shirk's awesome. You never ever have to worry any party member creeping up on you for aggro, ever. From a DRK perspective, it used to be that MTing meant that you would inevitably use your aggro combo at some point to hold the lead. Lost MP and DPS, who would want that? Now that shirk's a thing, everyone in the party is too far to even be a liability. As DRK, there's no reason to skip out on shirk. You must take rampart, voke, reprisal for 8-man content. That leaves you with two slots, and the only real candidates would be awarness, conva, and shirk. Conva helps with living dead, but what about awareness? Eh, shirk's much more practical and beneficial.
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    Natti Starshine
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    At the end of the day, it's a choice on how you tank. Personally I would rather keep my healers happy. If someone has numbers in Savage (not extreme primals) that show a huge increase in overall dps Between mt and ot I'd love to see. hardcores will be angry I'm sure. Whatever. I play how I want. If the other tank can justify why I need it then I'll use it. Otherwise it stays on my he shelf while I soak damage
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    Ratithgar Jovasch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Linx0r View Post
    At the end of the day, it's a choice on how you tank. Personally I would rather keep my healers happy.
    In my experience, healers(like everyone else) are happier the faster a fight is over. :P
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    Shao Kuraisenshi
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    actually i dont know what to think about shirk, i mean is a awesome skill for tank swaps the benefic is huge (even if my co-tank refuse to use it -.-) but on the other hand i find this skill crash against us in they way how make a entire combo and a stance almost more useless.

    i love DRK with all my heart and i love tanking, but this desing choices are pretty damm weird sometimes, if make our skills become useless then is a bad desing.

    dont get me wrong i love shirk but this tanks dinamics are pretty poor.
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    Carlo Vinne
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    I personally can't go without Awareness, it might be dumb but I get really salty when the boss crits, and will use awareness in response.

    However, I'll always take Shirk into an 8-man, because it's a really good skill. Were tankswaps going well before 4.0? Yes, they were. But there were always those times, like when a tank use provoke too early, and ends up an entire Berserk - Butcher's Block behind you in enmity.

    Really, I just exchange Shirk for Low Blow.
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    Ice- Cream
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kotemon View Post
    It reads like that Ninja ability but is a Tank exclusive. It makes sense to be used on an off tank. But I don't think an off Tank in offensive mode can generate enough enmity for it to matter. It makes sense for a Healer or Dps to toss enmity to the Tank. Or better, if it took 25% from a target instead. Its such a specific situational trait was there any reason why this would be considered a use full for a tank in the current set up? Aside from putting it on that one guy that's been criticizing the tank.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB6zlH172Xs&t=6s <-- This might clear some things up. It does NOT work like Shadewalker. It's a huge difference.
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