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    Shirk is for tank swaps. It's not necessary for vanilla dungeon runs but it's been great for swapping back and forth with Susano EX and I will be bringing it into Omega.
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    Also, no other skill is worth taking over shirk in 8 man content
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    I usual shirk on to a melee dps because all the tanks self sustain went to them.
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    Useless CD. If u know how to play, u don't ned it at all. Do ur hate rotation during swap, and OT do its DPS rotation. All will be ok. You can avoid this skill really

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfas View Post
    Useless CD. If u know how to play, u don't ned it at all. Do ur hate rotation during swap, and OT do its DPS rotation. All will be ok. You can avoid this skill really
    And what useless skill would you swap in instead?
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    Shrik seems not worth taking to me at all. I ran both ex primals so many times got full gear from both and never saw any tank use this ability. I use Rampart, Provoke, Convalescence, Reprisal, and Awareness. I have no issues with tank swaps what so ever and have been tanking since 1.0 on Paladin. You have your enmity combo ready for after you provoke and the other tank isn't going to take it off you. OT should be in dps stance at this point and he should never take the boss from you since in 4.0 they made it so tanks don't use their enmity combo as part of their dps rotatoin.
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    Last edited by Zumi; 06-27-2017 at 04:03 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    Shrik seems not worth taking to me at all. I ran both ex primals so many times got full gear from both and never saw any tank use this ability. I use Rampart, Provoke, Convalescence, Reprisal, and Awareness. I have no issues with tank swaps what so ever and have been tanking since 1.0 on Paladin. You have your enmity combo ready for after you provoke and the other tank isn't going to take it off you. OT should be in dps stance at this point and he should never take the boss from you since in 4.0 they made it so tanks don't use their enmity combo as part of their dps rotatoin.
    Or with Shirk, neither tank needs to lose DPS with their enmity combos OR being in tank stance. It's free enmity for days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Casualty View Post
    Or with Shirk, neither tank needs to lose DPS with their enmity combos OR being in tank stance. It's free enmity for days.
    Your healers would not appreciate you taking the boss in sword oath though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    Your healers would not appreciate you taking the boss in sword oath though.
    I've not tackled Lakshmi yet, but with Susano I've had no troubles tanking him in Sword Oath, and my healers haven't complained. It's a difference between 10k autos in sword and 8k autos in shield. With 46k hp that's only 1 auto difference before he kills me assuming I don't get healed at all for some reason. Rampart and Shelltron or Sentinel and Shelltron or even Hallowed Ground will get you through every Stormsplitter easily. The only time tanking in that fight can get sketchy is during the lightning stun segments where the whole party has to keep moving, and I usually try to save Rampart and Convalescence for that phase. Tanking phase three Susano in sword oath is easy.

    He's actually far more dangerous in the first phase with untelegraphed Assails hitting you for 30k+, but I'm in shield for a large portion of that phase so it doesn't matter.
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    Last edited by Harz; 06-27-2017 at 09:37 AM.

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