Please do not nerf the final boss

[SaitoHikari]

I don't see the devs nerfing it because people will overgear it later anyway, and also because (for now) the devs may want to have it act as a sort of soft gate to harder content without outright saying that it's a straight up gate.

People always wanted to subject everyone to pass a competency check before going into more hardcore type content, like some games have. Here's your competency check, except this time it also involves adapting to how the other party members behave too.

[Yasuhiro]

Tell's me that they are 9 years old

Projecting much?

Wait...actually scratch all that...you haven't even DONE the trial yet? EL OH EL.

Yeah, looking forward to it actually seeing what the big fuss is about. It's probably not even hard, since it's "casual content" and it's the Final Boss of Stormblood until patch 4.1 comes out and so on. Can't wait to clear it first try and be right about aether players crying like always.

[Rongway]

Ah it works with spacebar?

That should be widespread knowledge

It works with pretty much any key or button as long as you're not typing in the chat box at the time -- Yoshi-P wanted it to be very accessible. You can do creative things like alternate keys, or play mock piano symphonies on your keyboard, if mashing a single button would cause discomfort.

[ArcaviusGreyashe]

It works with pretty much any key or button as long as you're not typing in the chat box at the time -- Yoshi-P wanted it to be very accessible. You can do creative things like alternate keys, or play mock piano symphonies on your keyboard, if mashing a single button would cause discomfort.

Hitting a, z and d with my left hand, I don't even have to change my position... But it is true that many people still think they have to click only...

[Tinibou]

You must be new to Final Fantasy. Most of the final bosses in the series are fucking push overs. Also this is an MMO not a single player entry in the franchise. So yes "it's just MSQ" perfectly applies here. I'm gonna laugh so hard when it happens (and you all know it will happen). And if it doesn't hell if I care, because I'm well past that point anyways.

I am absolutely not new to the serie, I played nearly all of them, at least the numeroted ones and some of the spin-offs.
I must say you're right in some point because when you spent dozens of hours doing all the sidequests and you're over-leveled, the final boss is not that hard. I emphasized a bit earlier. But well, it does not really change my opinion.

[Remus]

I don't see why they need to nerf it. They need more fights of this difficulty in the MSQ, who says the MSQ can only be faceroll content?

[Lambdafish]

It's a dead fight and it will be nerfed the queue time is dead

And consider how it kill so many causal player they will have no choice but to nerf it so the causal can finish the story in the near future when literally no body queue for that crap lol

It give little to no reward

Ok, so heres an idea, because reckless nerfs are bad design and are bad for the community as a whole:

Instead of nerfing the fight, add a good reward. Currently the reward for beating The Royal Menagerie is 10 verity, that is it, and you are right, nobody is going to run it for 10 verity. Let us compare this to two other instances, Ala Mhigo (80 verity*) and Lakshmi/Susano EX (15 verity* + gear each), looking at these fights I would request that rather than nerfing the encounter, put the reward up to 35-40 verity* per run, OR have a daily quest in which you do the fight and get 100 verity* for your trouble. This would keep the content from dying, and allow new players to get through it with the help of more experienced player who as time goes on will overgear the fight and bring the difficulty down at a natural pace.

*Verity will be replaced with the new tomestone in savage patch and numbers will be adjusted accordingly.

And again why keep it this way? It's casual content. There really is no reason to.

You are still yet to answer my question, instead filling the thread with vitriol. I will ask you again, the fight was clearly intended to be this difficulty, why would the devs do that if it was supposed to be casual and faceroll?

Why keep it this way? Because the devs designed the fight this way and a lot of people enjoy it. And too many times has good content been nerfed so that the lazy can sleep their way through it, and I am making a stand to end that horrible design practice.

[Sammix87]

Why keep it this way? Because the devs designed the fight this way and a lot of people enjoy it. And too many times has good content been nerfed so that the lazy can sleep their way through it, and I am making a stand to end that horrible design practice.

I agree with you on this. I pretty much enjoyed everything in the expansion, for me it was incredibly fun to have new content with a few added ideas. It's a shame that Yoshi-P and his team design this wonderful content for us and all some players do is complain about it. Personally, I don't want epic faceroll/easy peasy content all the time because what's the point of playing it or paying for it?

Also, I find some of the people complaining about the QTE amazing, aside from the people who have legit medical reasons, as this game requires you to push buttons to perform rotation and then the one time you have to press a button to survive nobody wants to. Once you get passed that one QTE the fight is basically dodge AOE, kill the tail add, run away from each other when you get chained and dps the boss. Like almost every other fight in this game. Everyone can even SPRINT off of an AOE as it no longer consumes your TP.....

[missybee]

Most of the final bosses in the series are fucking push overs.

Yeah, and Royal Menagerie is keeping with that trend.

With regard to your "no final boss" statement, how can you argue that he ISN'T the final boss of 4.0? The game doesn't actually have an end, sure, but Royal Menagerie is very clearly the final boss of 4.0, just as Final Steps of Faith was the final boss of the entirety of the 3.x series.

[Raim]

Yeah, and Royal Menagerie is keeping with that trend.

With regard to your "no final boss" statement, how can you argue that he ISN'T the final boss of 4.0? The game doesn't actually have an end, sure, but Royal Menagerie is very clearly the final boss of 4.0, just as Final Steps of Faith was the final boss of the entirety of the 3.x series.

You realize that the patch with Nidhogg was near the end of 3.0 right? And this is at the very start of 4.0 right? This fight is more akin (in terms of pacing) to fighting Thordan. As before you do a final named storyline dungeon, and then a trial right after it. Exactly when you did it against Thordan. There will be another great villain to deal with in 4.0 they will reintroduce no doubt.