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  1. #11
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    Lilseph's Avatar
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    Shadow Link
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    Mateus
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by akaneakki View Post
    the boss is casual. Just because you can't dodge doesnt mean it's hard. Yawn
    I really don't get where that "MSQ is casual content" came from either. The only MSQ fight that got nerfed was Steps of Faith, and it wasn't even that hard. It required something that... should be taken for granted in an MMO: Communication. BARE minium coordination.


    I don't know if people forgot about it, but back in 2.0, when people didn't even had their hoplite gear, only their job quest's AF combined with some level 40+ gear, no Darklight pieces at all. Yes, they used to wipe in Ultima Weapon. I remember the enrage. It was "hard" because people was facing it with the minium possible ilvl. Here is different, you're given some gear to get things done, but STILL you're behind in terms of gear, of course it's going to be "hard". Mechanic wise, it's using mechanics that every fight has shown already and mixed up like Thordan did.

    I think they should go and spam the second boss in Bardam's Mettle.

    People just need to get used with mechanics and stop thinking that "being casual" means that you press one buttom and win with no effort whatsoever.
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  2. #12
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    Sho86's Avatar
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    Koe Kazham
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    Golem
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SenorPatty View Post
    Sigh

    The instructions are clear. I'm referencing discomfort. I imagine on the controller, I'd use my thumb which is more preferable for me. Index finger mashing on the other hand...
    Apparently not clear enough, as from what your referencing by you still think it is only one button at a time. I just fat-roll my thumb across all four buttons while hitting the trigger fingers at the same time. K/M users in my group said wasd+left/right clicks on mouse did it just as fast. It is beyond far from uncomfortable when done properly. lol Not to say I approve of the mechanic really, I find it a bit childish for being "active".
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    Last edited by Sho86; 06-25-2017 at 07:20 PM.

  3. #13
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    Vice Shark
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    Coeurl
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    Fun fact on that note: PC users actually have an advantage here, as left clicking the button and hitting spacebar do the same thing - progress the bar -, so you can use both your hands to double the inputs.
    Ah it works with spacebar?

    That should be widespread knowledge
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

  4. #14
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    Chiapet's Avatar
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    Character
    Chia Pet
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 80
    I think honestly the only thing I'd like changed if more camera room and the colors of the AOE markers for the fight. It is super hard to see the red box for the tail move with the blue line aoe markers of the flying ice shards at the same time. The red could be much brighter. It's very hard for my eyes to see it.
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  5. #15
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    Renik's Avatar
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    Ren'li Heise
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    That boss is not hard at all, it just have some very wide aoes on a big battlefield, it's just impossible to beat with just good reaction times, unless you're very lucky with your positions, you have to learn it, that's all.

    A nerf is needed tho, but not because of the difficulty, but because of the rage quitters that give up after 15min and sent the DPSs back to another 1h long queue.
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  6. #16
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    Character
    Emilia Summers
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    Chocobo
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    They probably won't nerf this boss as the clear rate for this boss is pretty good.. in the JP side at least...
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  7. #17
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    Mirn Armaya
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    Shiva
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    The wide attack from the corners and issues for colorblind people is something I got a beef with, but overall a decent fight.
    Loathe to have it in trial roulette tho, always disliked those fall-of-the-edge types of encounters ever since Titan.
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    Last edited by Arrius; 06-25-2017 at 08:35 PM.

  8. #18
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    Atlyss Sol
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    Goblin
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Please don't, just cause it is msq doesn't mean it should covered in bubble wrap with a "kid friendly" seal of approval slapped on the side. It is not overly difficult for the lesser players to beat. Give them some sort of feeling of achievement when they win.
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  9. #19
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    Sylvina Eon
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    Exodus
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by RaizeGraymalkin View Post
    It will get nerfed and there is nothing wrong with that. You'll get your EX version.

    Also clearly the fight is seen as a challenge as so many people are having issues with it, but I've beaten this to death in another thread. The "it's a final boss" excuse needs to stop. It's MSQ aka casual content.
    No it wont get nerfed. Final steps of faith wasn't nerfed either. People just get better gear and becuase of that it becomes easier on its own.
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  10. #20
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    Mirn Armaya
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    Shiva
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvina View Post
    No it wont get nerfed. Final steps of faith wasn't nerfed either. People just get better gear and becuase of that it becomes easier on its own.
    The Final Steps of Faith is vastly different from it's ARR counterpart. FSoF was just a beatdown on the boss, while SoF was beating the boss before it was moving in at the last gate while utilizing cannons, snares, dragonkillers and managing constant adds.

    And that was the problem for most pugs until SoF got 'balanced'.
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