Stormblood stat weights?

[Deox]

With those values as a SCH 100% direct seems good, some vit if progression requires it

Edit: Settled on critical > hit > everything for.sch

[Watchit]

I'm not so sure about direct, I'd rather just take crit/ss since it effects both healing and dps. But I'm speaking as a WHM, I'm not as familiar with SCH.

[Deox]

I'm not as familiar with SCH.

Sch is always the support healer so outside of tank busters, big aoe dmg, or high split party damage they are typically in nonstop dps mode

[Kethic]

I've continued to churn through materia, and the latest best set for me on WHM is Det/SpS, weirdly. I wasn't going to try it, but latest Reddit data implied it might work. Set a whole bunch of new records for myself today. We'll see if it holds. For SCH, I think Crit is still way powerful, and Direct is actually pretty damn useful.

[KDSilver]

Could you explain why Det/SpS is great for whm ?
I'm curious and I'd like to know.

I was about to go on full crit/det.

[Jonnycbad]

Crit heals are pointless because you don't know if your heal is going to crit until it crits. So if your tank is reduced to 60% and Tetra/Asylum are down, you're still going to cast that Cure II. If it crits, you don't get any benefit because its overheal anyway. Basically most cure crits end up being overheals. SS means your cures come out faster and come off CD from GCD faster which means more cures in any finite amount of time.

So hypothetically which is better:
10 cures in 10 seconds for 1000 HP each for a total of 10,000?
OR
11 cures in 10 seconds for 950 HP each for a total of 10,450?

So you'll get more cures off in the same amount of time compared to having stronger heals. Also the same applies here for DPS spells. 11 Stone IVs with SS vs 10 Stone IVs with DET. The extra damage granted from the DET build isn't going to add up to enough damage to equal an extra cast of a Stone IV unless we're talking dozens of casts, but in that time, the extra SS could have resulted in 2 or maybe 3 extra Stone IV casts in that same amount of time it takes to cast 10 Stone IVs with DET.

[BloodRubyXII]

I took Crit > SpS on my SCH (1600 crit 1200 SPS) - you could probably go well with full DH melds on SCH though.
I took SpS > Crit on my AST, but also wore ilvl up gear so I had more det/mind since the crit double dip for AST is nothing compared to SCH (1200 SpS 1400 Crit)

I only have +40 melds in my susano wep and in 2 pieces of omega gear though.

[KDSilver]

You can't indeed rely on Crit to heal properly. But this stat is always a overall gain for both healing and dps.
+ the lvl 68 trait give a chance to reduce Assize cooldown. So, yes, I'm absolutely not relying on this either BUT, this is always a small gain when it procs so.

If my regens have crit ticks, that means it might give me some uptime to put my dots.

So for me, definitly crit + det or sps since dots and hots are increased with it.

[Kethic]

Could you explain why Det/SpS is great for whm ?
I'm curious and I'd like to know.

I was about to go on full crit/det.

DET is the important part. It scales much better than Crit or SpS right now. This tends to be the case early in an expansion, but the Det buff makes it more pronounced right now. You can fill the non-det slots with either, since they track each other pretty well when combined with high Det.

I expect scaling will change once we have higher weapon damage values, but for now Det seems to have a small advantage over Crit as a primary focus. You may get lucky with Crit chains, but on average Det will win by a few percent, and give you more consistent heals and damage.

Nothing worth fretting over. Definitely meld to your playstyle.

[Kethic]

edit: I was on mobile, so couldn't edit.

I melded out a few times, and roughly verified the relative values of the spreadsheet I'm using. The spreadsheet is based on 3.57 theoryjerks document. adjusted for 4.0 values, but not including DH or the changes to AP. That said, the values should be internally comparable.

Crit / Det / SpS / DH
1633 / 1142 / 724 / 484

ended up being my second to worst setup, although on occasion it would crit out some great numbers. I found myself hesitating to see if I would need a second heal, or if I could go back to dps.

1154 / 1462 / 1004 / 364
1434 / 1462 / 724 / 364

these performed basically the same, although both were consistent 3-4 percent better than my original Crit focus melds. I also noticed less stress since the heals were slightly more consistent. this did mean I had to followup heal more often, but i knew it was coming, so I could plan my actions appropriately. in both cases I overheal horrendously, but that's a personal problem. <.<

My spreadsheet doesn't model SpS gains to DoTs well, yet it says the latter two builds are roughly equal. That made me inclined to favor SpS, since it's likely a fraction of a percent better.

That said... we're talking about <=5% difference at current gear levels, and I cleared every Ex available right now in all specs. Play what feels right.

edit: I did try a full SpS/Crit build, but it underperformed even the original Crit-centric build, so I didn't list it here.