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  1. 06-26-2017 07:36 PM

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    BabyLeviathan's Avatar
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    Kyameron Jaegar
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    Odin
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by aleph_null View Post
    Butcher's block shouldn't generate 20 gauge, it's already the enmity and highest potency combo. Right now you need to weigh the benefit of the extra potency against the extra gauge generated by path combo, which can be used for onslaught (like it or not it's ogcd so you can use it for extra dps when upheaval is on cd).

    I do agree that the stance switch penalty makes the class clunky. Being able to use lv 60 accessories is just a stupid oversight on the dev's part, it'll probably be patched soon.
    Yeah I can understand butchers not being 20 but a lot off the other stuff still stands I think. I loved playing WAR and it's pretty terrible now as it's nowhere near as fun or strong.
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    Raegen Beaumont
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    Spriggan
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    WAR has still a ton of defensive cooldowns. making it an incredible MT.
    The main issue atm is that it brings almost no utility.
    Also PLD got all the love, which let's DRK and WAR look bad, despite them being great tank jobs.
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    Grandfall Fraxinus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starkbeaumont View Post
    WAR has still a ton of defensive cooldowns. making it an incredible MT.
    The main issue atm is that it brings almost no utility.
    Also PLD got all the love, which let's DRK and WAR look bad, despite them being great tank jobs.
    i think it's fine if SE want to make WAR the only tank that offer no utility to the party
    but at least make them able to deal damage and/or survivability above the other 2 tanks to make up for that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starkbeaumont View Post
    WAR has still a ton of defensive cooldowns. making it an incredible MT.
    The main issue atm is that it brings almost no utility.
    Also PLD got all the love, which let's DRK and WAR look bad, despite them being great tank jobs.
    At the moment there's no reason to take a WAR into end game content as it does less DMG and has less utility than both DRK and WAR.
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    Poken Ruhn
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    Quote Originally Posted by BabyLeviathan View Post
    At the moment there's no reason to take a WAR into end game content as it does less DMG and has less utility than both DRK and WAR.
    Agreed, and Warrior being my main.. And not liking the other two tank styles that much. I honestly lost most of my motivation to even play the game.. Sadly. I'm sure i'm not the only one who feels this way.



    On a side note, having to wear 270 strength accessories now just makes me want to face desk. We had a great system for tanks, this feels like a freaking tank purge.. All tanks across the board are being punished for playing a class nobody else wants to play.
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    Saryn Storm
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    Warrior Lv 90
    The current version of war feels clunky but not weak or unplayable. It needs quality of life tweaks with Onslaught and stance switching being too costly and Shake it off being too situational (for now)

    I'll stick to my warrior but do hope it gets some fine tuning during the expansion.
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    Fannah Loydera
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    Goldsmith Lv 60
    I don't know if it has been written somewhere already, but, does the "reduce slashing resistance of 10%" effect on Maim stacks with the same "reducing slashing resistance of 10%" on Yukikaze of the Samurai?
    And if it does, does it stacks additively or multiplicatively?

    I mean, knowing the samurai is potencially the highest dps class, it can actually bring a lot of damage. So I guess the dmg brought by WAR would be still higher than the 2 others in every cases if there are SAM allies.
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    Shao Kuraisenshi
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Fannah View Post
    I don't know if it has been written somewhere already, but, does the "reduce slashing resistance of 10%" effect on Maim stacks with the same "reducing slashing resistance of 10%" on Yukikaze of the Samurai?
    And if it does, does it stacks additively or multiplicatively?

    I mean, knowing the samurai is potencially the highest dps class, it can actually bring a lot of damage. So I guess the dmg brought by WAR would be still higher than the 2 others in every cases if there are SAM allies.
    is the same buff and cant be stack, and cant be avoid for SAM or NINJA bcs offer a sen and a dot too in they respective jobs

    edit to Fannah: np ^^
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    Last edited by shao32; 06-26-2017 at 10:59 PM.

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    Fayhd Apollo
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    Sargatanas
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    Marauder Lv 70
    The changes suggested by Xeno are overkill.
    Change the Stance penalty to a flat 20 gauge, remove the share CD on unchained/IR and drop onslaught to 10 gauge and WAR would be in a very good spot.
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