Why was pvp chat disabled?

[Lynart]

PvP is a team game no? After making a thread about sucking at it, I figured out what the general flowchart of execution is for each match.....except I can't ****ing tell anyone that's clearly as confused as I was.

It's also impossible to make simple suggestions like "get the adrenaline crate" or whatever.

I'm surprised nobody else cried about earlier..unless I missed it.

[Moomba33]

There has been a lot of negative feedback about this change. The topics were buried by discussion of the Stormblood changes though.

Here's one of the main threads: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...n-in-The-Feast

[Lynart]

Thanks. I will go bump that thread cause wtf

.....does SE have a history of listening to players btw? Aside from the time where they almost sank the game with 1.0 lol

[Koltik]

Thanks. I will go bump that thread cause wtf

.....does SE have a history of listening to players btw? Aside from the time where they almost sank the game with 1.0 lol

I mean, that thread kind of answers your question doesn't it? =P

[OskarXCI]

According the data that the devs have, it was pretty much only insults thrown left and right rather than strategic talk between party members.

Now someone will probably try to contradict this. Go right ahead. Give me your best shot.

I rather take the devs own words than some random player in these forums.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

According the data that the devs have, it was pretty much only insults thrown left and right rather than strategic talk between party members.

Now someone will probably try to contradict this. Go right ahead. Give me your best shot.

I rather take the devs own words than some random player in these forums.

Challenge Accepted.

As someone who played Feast pretty heavily, I can say by and large - at least by my own experience - that insults and toxicity weren't nearly as bad as people have been led to believe. Think about it: In a community so small as the PvP community, what do you possibly gain tearing down others and making a name for yourself as a toxic player, especially when you may VERY likely be on that same guy's team next match? Personally speaking, I want to communicate and win more than I want to insult or put down someone on my team.

Sure, there were some bad apples. Some. Hardly the majority, so don't believe the hype. But the same is true within the PvE side of the community, thus I ask why banning chat has never been a tabled solution there? Truthfully, the verdict is still out on the matter, and Yoshi P has yet to speak on it like he said he would. The community spoke out - 88 pages or so - of disapproval for the idea, and it was pushed anyways, despite the bigger problems it would cause. It hasn't solved any toxicity issues. It in fact, made it worse. Especially because the larger majority of decent, helpful players - myself included - are forced into silence now too. The many were punished for the actions of a few, and it was not necessary.

So then, with that said, please share with us what words you have from the devs that somehow holds more credibility than my own firsthand experience.

[OskarXCI]

Challenge Accepted.

So then, with that said, please share with us what words you have from the devs that somehow holds more credibility than my own firsthand experience.

That's good and all but those that want have strategic talk are the minority.

Check Live Letter 33.

gamerescape made a summary

"- Chat disabled during battles"
"- Due to the majority of chat containing harassment and not actual strategy."

[Culfinrandir]

The hatred & unbelievably vile things that were said in chat got to the stage that almost every PVP game resulted in a report to the GM team. It was easier to ban chatting than dealing with the tens of thousands of complaints.

[Zojha]

Well! Yoshi-P actually wanted to make a post on that before the release of Stormblood, according to an interview. It seems he conveniently forgot about that, though (Which I totally called >_>).

The only statement we have is a fan translation of an older interview, in which it was said there was more harassment/flame than strategy being discussed in the chat.

[KusoWat]

The only statement we have is a fan translation of an older interview, in which it was said there was more harassment/flame than strategy being discussed in the chat.

That's because people don't send in reports about people discussing strategy. In my experience, there was far more constructive speaking and macros than general toxicity.

Yoshi, and SE in general, have no idea what they're talking about regarding PvP.