Samurai released too soon

[NoahArks]

I'm not saying he shouldn't have released during stormblood, but they should've waited a few updates like how they did it with ninja in ARR. Right now there's such a lack of healers and evne the people I play with are a sam or rdm with the ratio being 9:1 for samurai.

So hard to find healers to play with and even if I go heal myself you mostly run into tanks that pull more than I personally can handle atm (considering I haven't played a healer since ARR). Queues are just brutal atm. 50mins for a dungeon that will take less than 30mins to complete....


Or just allow rdm to choose their role and replace verholy or verflare with a Vermedica? (wishful thinking )

[Solica]

Personaly i think it would have been much more favorable to release the Samurai(to match the theme) along with healer and leave Red Mage for the next expansion along with a tank. There was a lack of healer/tanks even in HW and they only made it worse.

[Vaer]

I'm not saying he shouldn't have released during stormblood, but they should've waited a few updates like how they did it with ninja in ARR. Right now there's such a lack of healers and evne the people I play with are a sam or rdm with the ratio being 9:1 for samurai.

Dunno, it was just the perfect storm of everything they did compounded the problem. They introduced jump pots, which added more players to the top end adding even more players to the queue, 2 dps jobs that were heavily requested and no new tanks and healers, and some tanks and healers don't like the job changes so they also switched to DPS. They also started a welcome back campaign right at launch.

I don't think there would have been as much hype for SB if they delayed Samurai though.

[Daralii]

Personaly i think it would have been much more favorable to release the Samurai(to match the theme) along with healer and leave Red Mage for the next expansion along with a tank. There was a lack of healer/tanks even in HW and they only made it worse.

According to Yoshida, DRK and AST did almost nothing to get more people playing tanks and healers and just caused the existing pool to spread out more.

[NovaLevossida]

According to Yoshida, DRK and AST did almost nothing to get more people playing tanks and healers and just caused the existing pool to spread out more.

They did a lot for my queue times.

[Vexander]

Funny thing. I made an alt and have been playing Paladin almost exclusively on it. Might do WHM, SAM, and RDM eventually, mind you, but still. I'm pretty happy with the Paladin Changes, and I've always been attracted to that particular aesthetic; Shield and Sword. By comparison Dark Knight holds a little interest but not enough to make me want to try it (I just don't see a two-handed sword as a very tank appropriate weapon), and I have no interest in Warrior even though all my friends keep telling me its the best since it puts out the most DPS out of the three tanks (again, an axe isn't an appropriate tank weapon to me).

I'm not sure what new Tank Square could add that I would want to play. Sword and Shield is pretty much exactly what I want and what I have.

As for Healer, well, fix White Mage and we'll talk. Scholar doesn't appeal to me and Astrologian irks me because of the card gimmick. I'd rather have crystals or something other than Madam Cleo reading my fortune.

[Reinha]

Meh, the queue times are as bad as expected but honestly I'll gladly endure them for being able to play RDM. It's such a well designed job and the first dps job I've really enjoyed since ARR Bard. I'm sure there are people enjoying SAM just as much and I wouldn't want job releases delayed because of queue times.

This is the same situation as server queues. It doesn't matter who was there first or who has played the role the longest. Players have the means to solve the issue for themselves if they choose to.

[phishstix]

Except Yoshi said he would never release another class mid expansion like that. Don't ask for the source, I'm just parroting others.

[whiteblade89]

We're most likely never going to see another job released mid-expansion like NIN did. And frankly, it was a stupid move for them to release one dps job during a time when there was nothing to do for the players except level the shiny new NIN. It screwed the df pretty hard iirc. And honestly, SE has only themselves to blame for making the healer and especially tank roles so damn boring. I don't get it. There was obviously a lot of love and care that went into making SAM and RDM yet none of that was extended towards the tanks except for PLD. I for one don't plan to tank at all this expansion. SE clearly doesn't know what the players like about any of the tank jobs so they take away the very things that make WAR and DRK unique. But I won't get on that soap box again.

TL;DR: SE made the dps jobs way more interesting than the roles of tank and healer, hence why there are so many dps right now. And SE has only themselves to blame for gutting jobs that didn't need it.

[ManuelBravo]

It's never too soon to release a new class. What they should of done however was balance it out with a TANK as well to keep DF flowing.