SE Needs to put VIT back into our Damage Modifier

[aqskerorokero]

aggro generation is enhanced for tank stance and emnity combo, no problem whatsoever with aggro now why change back to vit? As op said,SE wants more tanks, not blueicondps, a tank can't be equal in damage as actual dps, if you choose to use less emnity combo it's your problem not SE's

[Mostly_Raxus]

aggro generation is enhanced for tank stance and emnity combo, no problem whatsoever with aggro now why change back to vit? As op said,SE wants more tanks, not blueicondps, a tank can't be equal in damage as actual dps, if you choose to use less emnity combo it's your problem not SE's

then why were the majority of our new SB ability's dps attacks with no emnity included? speaking for DRK, the blood gauge is almost useless from a tank stand point, we waste a gcd on a dps ability taking away from emnity generation? why?

[Tankstuff]

aggro generation is enhanced for tank stance and emnity combo, no problem whatsoever with aggro now why change back to vit? As op said,SE wants more tanks, not blueicondps, a tank can't be equal in damage as actual dps, if you choose to use less emnity combo it's your problem not SE's

yea lets just sit in tank stance doing our 123 combo and ignore 3/4 of our kit. Try that shit back in a3s and see what would have happened to you lol sorry catboy it doesnt work like that. And no i dont want to give up what dps I do have cause bad players flock to the real dps roles. I hit enrage timer on susano ex yesterday even though I peaked at over 3k dps.

[Quor]

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You're doing the math wrong. The gap *will* widen because while yes, we do get STR on our left side, we do *not* get any more than 125 STR on our right side, assuming we slot tank gear for the right side. This is because the tank right side gear only has VIT, with a single slot for materia (which will be used for 25 STR). Meanwhile, DPS are getting primary stats for damage (DEX, STR, INT) on both the right AND the left. So while our VIT on the right side goes up (cause we are using tank accessories) our STR remains static at 125 (5x 25 STR materia). So the DPS stats on the right side are scaling up *just like our VIT is* but because we can only have a static amount of STR on the right side, our damage is *not* increasing as accessory ilvl increases (while for DPS, it most assuredly *is* increasing).

This will create a gap that will not easily be bridged. Better to just bring VIT back as a dmg increase for tanks at the same ratio it was in HW. It worked out that way, and as a tank it meant both left and right sides scaled in proportion to DPS as ilvl went up.

[Brannigan]

Putting some scaling STR on tank accessories would work to combat the scaling problem, though it'd make STR materia worthless. At a certain point they just have to revamp materia - especially now that VIT accessories are class locked. What the hell is the point of DEX/INT/MND materia? It can't go in any slots where it'll actually have an effect. Actually, the final solution would be to make all accessories have only VIT and some secondary stats/effects along with a materia slot for the main stat of your choice.

[Falar]

Putting some scaling STR on tank accessories would work to combat the scaling problem, though it'd make STR materia worthless. At a certain point they just have to revamp materia - especially now that VIT accessories are class locked. What the hell is the point of DEX/INT/MND materia? It can't go in any slots where it'll actually have an effect. Actually, the final solution would be to make all accessories have only VIT and some secondary stats/effects along with a materia slot for the main stat of your choice.

No, we could still meld STR. They wouldn't be putting so much STR on the accessories that we would reach the stat cap for that item.

If they did, then we would have the same ATK power as DPS. Even if it was 1/2, with melds we would get close. At least for this ilevel.

Hell, I'd be satisfied if the ratio was for the i310 accessories to have about 40. Melding would put another 25 on that.

[Wolfas]

Thank youv ery much. I notice that since last sunday. I saw the problem and didn't understand where he came from !

It's harder to generate hate now and hate on a pack of adds

[Faytte]

Its sad cause, the way to deal with this now is to use i270 str accessories and meld some vit on them. You lose hp but the loss in dps and threat from these 'changes' is far to immense.

They should frankly, just put str on fending accessories (in addition to vit) and make them tank only. Would solve the issues.

[Brannigan]

No, we could still meld STR. They wouldn't be putting so much STR on the accessories that we would reach the stat cap for that item.

Historically, meld caps have actually been individually set per stat and item. I mean STR has had full meld potential on vit accessories, but MND/DEX (iirc) haven't. I think if they were to put STR on VIT accs then they'd lower the STR caps on all of them to match. I didn't clarify that in my original post though, sorry.
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[Pomo]

Its sad cause, the way to deal with this now is to use i270 str accessories and meld some vit on them. You lose hp but the loss in dps and threat from these 'changes' is far to immense.

They should frankly, just put str on fending accessories (in addition to vit) and make them tank only. Would solve the issues.

They should just go back to the previous change to tank damage. That is, the vit/str split was fine even though it was a nerf to old tank dps. It was still a lot better than what they did with the SB tank damage change given that we can no longer slot slaying pieces post-sb.