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    NoahArks's Avatar
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    Asuna Okawa
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    Gilgamesh
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    Archer Lv 50

    Samurai released too soon

    I'm not saying he shouldn't have released during stormblood, but they should've waited a few updates like how they did it with ninja in ARR. Right now there's such a lack of healers and evne the people I play with are a sam or rdm with the ratio being 9:1 for samurai.

    So hard to find healers to play with and even if I go heal myself you mostly run into tanks that pull more than I personally can handle atm (considering I haven't played a healer since ARR). Queues are just brutal atm. 50mins for a dungeon that will take less than 30mins to complete....


    Or just allow rdm to choose their role and replace verholy or verflare with a Vermedica? (wishful thinking )
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    Soli Dus
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    Louisoix
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    Black Mage Lv 70
    Personaly i think it would have been much more favorable to release the Samurai(to match the theme) along with healer and leave Red Mage for the next expansion along with a tank. There was a lack of healer/tanks even in HW and they only made it worse.
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    Endris Caemwynn
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    Coeurl
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Solica View Post
    Personaly i think it would have been much more favorable to release the Samurai(to match the theme) along with healer and leave Red Mage for the next expansion along with a tank. There was a lack of healer/tanks even in HW and they only made it worse.
    According to Yoshida, DRK and AST did almost nothing to get more people playing tanks and healers and just caused the existing pool to spread out more.
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    NovaLevossida's Avatar
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    Kaiser Sturmwind
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    Famfrit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daralii View Post
    According to Yoshida, DRK and AST did almost nothing to get more people playing tanks and healers and just caused the existing pool to spread out more.
    They did a lot for my queue times.
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    Ein Vaer
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    Excalibur
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by NoahArks View Post
    I'm not saying he shouldn't have released during stormblood, but they should've waited a few updates like how they did it with ninja in ARR. Right now there's such a lack of healers and evne the people I play with are a sam or rdm with the ratio being 9:1 for samurai.
    Dunno, it was just the perfect storm of everything they did compounded the problem. They introduced jump pots, which added more players to the top end adding even more players to the queue, 2 dps jobs that were heavily requested and no new tanks and healers, and some tanks and healers don't like the job changes so they also switched to DPS. They also started a welcome back campaign right at launch.

    I don't think there would have been as much hype for SB if they delayed Samurai though.
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    Last edited by Vaer; 06-24-2017 at 08:58 PM.

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    Makeda's Avatar
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    Makeda Fyah
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Vaer View Post
    Dunno, it was just the perfect storm of everything they did compounded the problem. They introduced jump pots, which added more players to the top end adding even more players to the queue
    It costs $50 to get a single new character boosted to the start of Stormblood. I really doubt the number of people doing this is that many.
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    CapricaLangley's Avatar
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    Silent Bay
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    Ragnarok
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    Reaper Lv 100
    A lot of people are talking about long queues, damage nerfs, damage discrepancies between similar jobs, etc. The real problem is not mechanics nor number wise. It's an enjoyement problem. I really loved all of the stormblood activities and MSQs so far, cleared all the content and i'm happy with that. But I don't see a reason why I should keep playing as tank since the entire role is not enjoyable anymore (i'm not talking about damage nerf, i'm talking about the absence of rotation fillers, possibility to build up enmity and fill gauges at the same time, absence of satisfying skills to unleash on enemies).
    Tanks (as every other role, see SCH) need to be happy while playing their job. If this problems and feedbacks are not looked into, will lead to major problems for the game, since both tanks and healers are essential roles. Now we have 50minutes+queues for dps, roles, but expect them go up over the course of the next months. There's no concrete reason why wait times would go down.
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    Vaer's Avatar
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    Ein Vaer
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    Excalibur
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Makeda View Post
    It costs $50 to get a single new character boosted to the start of Stormblood. I really doubt the number of people doing this is that many.
    Depends. If they were already 60 and didn't want to trudge through all the quests to get to SB it doesn't cost quite that much.
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    Rin Black
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    Balmung
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Funny thing. I made an alt and have been playing Paladin almost exclusively on it. Might do WHM, SAM, and RDM eventually, mind you, but still. I'm pretty happy with the Paladin Changes, and I've always been attracted to that particular aesthetic; Shield and Sword. By comparison Dark Knight holds a little interest but not enough to make me want to try it (I just don't see a two-handed sword as a very tank appropriate weapon), and I have no interest in Warrior even though all my friends keep telling me its the best since it puts out the most DPS out of the three tanks (again, an axe isn't an appropriate tank weapon to me).

    I'm not sure what new Tank Square could add that I would want to play. Sword and Shield is pretty much exactly what I want and what I have.

    As for Healer, well, fix White Mage and we'll talk. Scholar doesn't appeal to me and Astrologian irks me because of the card gimmick. I'd rather have crystals or something other than Madam Cleo reading my fortune.
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    Reinha's Avatar
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Odin
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Meh, the queue times are as bad as expected but honestly I'll gladly endure them for being able to play RDM. It's such a well designed job and the first dps job I've really enjoyed since ARR Bard. I'm sure there are people enjoying SAM just as much and I wouldn't want job releases delayed because of queue times.

    This is the same situation as server queues. It doesn't matter who was there first or who has played the role the longest. Players have the means to solve the issue for themselves if they choose to.
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