Royal Menagerie

[Blanchimont]

It isn't anywhere near an ex fight, most of the stuff is literally just dodging and old mechanics, what makes it hard is the playerbase who have grown accustomed to msq content being completely braindead. I also really doubt there is rng in that fight that can punish you like that, since every fight in this game is heavily scripted to the point when pretty much every move happens in determined order and I doubt the case here would be much different, if you feel there is a stack marker when everyone is busy its most likely by design.

I disagree. Compare the Royal Menagerie to The Pool of Tribute (Extreme) or Omega. The lack of new mechanics does not automatically make it easy. Instead, it is probably the easiest by a long shot while Omega 2 or Omega 4 are probably the difficult ones (O2 in my opinion because of the gravity and upper and lower layer of mechanics that stack on top of one another makes it harder to tell what is going on until you've memorized it). Again, you have seen most of these mechanics before in previous fights, but it does not make it easy. The combination of a bunch of potential one hit kills to keep track of is what makes it difficult and the lack of instant death conditions is what makes it easy. Using that logic, Omega 3 should be hard because of the new mechanics introduced. We have the strange maze, the four role panels, the frog transformation, and the earth and ice panels. But, that is not the case. In fact, Omega 3 is the easiest of all four in my opinion. The entire Omega raid feels easier than the Royal Menagerie right now because of the numerous instant death conditions in the Royal Menagerie because the Royal Menagerie has twice as many mechanics. Your post game dungeons should not be easier than the main story quest and the main story quest boss should not feel like an extra hard bonus boss in a game.

[hynaku]

Needs to be nerfed a lot when healers keep leaving then party gets disbanded. Maybe they should remove it from main story and make it like ex primals. Its not right how it is wait 45 minutes to hour in duty finder just have party disbanded after 3 wipes then have to wait another 45 minutes to hour to get in again. Just so can finish story so can buy lvl 70 gear.

[sorawild34]

Needs to be nerfed a lot when healers keep leaving then party gets disbanded. Maybe they should remove it from main story and make it like ex primals. Its not right how it is wait 45 minutes to hour in duty finder just have party disbanded after 3 wipes then have to wait another 45 minutes to hour to get in again. Just so can finish story so can buy lvl 70 gear.

I disagree. The only thing that makes this fight in anyway difficult is that extremely casual players refuse to learn the mechanics of the fight. Once you learn the mechanics this boss is a complete push over.

[Age_of_Oblivion]

I think everyone that has already successfully cleared this fight and is saying it was a piece of cake should play it one more time, and see what a joyous cake walk it really is in the DF. I've had 7 groups now and still can't get healers to dodge tails.

[CrazyCelt]

11 groups, upward of 50 attempts and no clears. Had both Tanks quit on one group when three people said they were new. Not liking this fight.

[Seoulstar]

I think everyone that has already successfully cleared this fight and is saying it was a piece of cake should play it one more time, and see what a joyous cake walk it really is in the DF. I've had 7 groups now and still can't get healers to dodge tails.

I've beaten this four times with df and once with a pf to help someone clear..

[CrazyCelt]

Alright, just need to complain on the forums evidently. Cleared on my third try after posting.

[Nestama]

I think everyone that has already successfully cleared this fight and is saying it was a piece of cake should play it one more time, and see what a joyous cake walk it really is in the DF. I've had 7 groups now and still can't get healers to dodge tails.

I have, twice (I'll go a third time after a phone call). In both instances, the party would wipe once and then get the clear a second time. All it takes is for everyone to be paying attention.

[Frizze]

I think everyone that has already successfully cleared this fight and is saying it was a piece of cake should play it one more time, and see what a joyous cake walk it really is in the DF. I've had 7 groups now and still can't get healers to dodge tails.

Ok, i did. Have a bard friend(who goes out of his way not to do hard content and is only an ok combatant - hes an A+ crafter though) who just got to the end of the story. Joined him and a tank friend(good tank), and the 3 of us hit DF. Bard was going in blind, and we didnt explain the mechanics. No idea how many people in the DF were new. No one asked any questions, so tank pulled and we went for it. Bard died a few times early in phase 1 and 3, but was up for almost all of the last 40% or so of the fight. One shotted it. He didnt enjoy it as much as we did, but he got his clear.

[Besame]

I think everyone that has already successfully cleared this fight and is saying it was a piece of cake should play it one more time, and see what a joyous cake walk it really is in the DF. I've had 7 groups now and still can't get healers to dodge tails.

I cleared it but I hated it and won't even play my other stand alone char to 70 due to the thought of doing that encounter again hehe. Nope, no way.