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    Axxion's Avatar
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    Equinox Axxion
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    Behemoth
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kengi_Stargazer View Post
    It really needs Nerfed already or just made optional entirely. Tried for over 8 hours to clear this Ive tried every tweak to my DPS rotation , Best gear i can possibly have at Level 70 , watched 4 or 5 videos explaining every mechanic , and did both DF and PF there simply is no way to clear it for me. I even went to my FC of 140+ people and tried getting help from ones i guess who somehow had super luck in beating it already. The Boss has too much HP and stacks too much damage that healers in every run I did cant keep up even more so on the second phase when the platforms can be removed. If the platforms after say 45 Seconds would return it would be easier. The echo would help but im not sure how well since like any Dungeon run or Trial people are likely to quit after a wipe or 2.
    If you are failing to clear a PF can help with that. Truth be told imo the fight is easy once everybody knows what to do.
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    Leigaon's Avatar
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    Zara Diaspora
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    Excalibur
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    Carpenter Lv 63
    Not sure if it needs a nerf, this fight isn't that difficult. If your are a player that has been blindly gliding your way through content, then yes it's a skill gap. But this is what we need, someone who still has issues dodging plumes on Titan like bosses that have consequences..like death. It's a trickle down that will benefit everyone, annoying to some of those at first though.

    I'm trying to see what makes it so hard for people? These are are all mechanics we've seen before in one way or form.

    Waterfall: Levi-ex
    Pools of Water for Fire Resistance / Fire AoE: Scylla
    Earth: Bait the cones out to the side like Diabolos or Sephirot
    Ice: Shiva
    Wind: Typhon or Aero III from the first boss in the last Void runs.
    Button Tapping: Playstation One video games..lol go play Dragon Ball GT Final Bout!

    Kill the tail and run to the sides when he does the large bacon line of sight.

    I mean you can die, I tapped my joystick for Ice and fell off as a WAR. lol it's possible people need to just learn and those who are quitting are either not worth keeping because they're not as good or they demand perfection and they will cause stress.

    Good luck though!
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    Last edited by Leigaon; 06-28-2017 at 11:18 PM.

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    TaleraRistain's Avatar
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Jenova
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Leigaon View Post

    Waterfall: Levi-ex
    Pools of Water for Fire Resistance / Fire AoE: Scylla
    Earth: Bait the cones out to the side like Diabolos or Sephirot
    Ice: Shiva
    Wind: Typhon or Aero III from the first boss in the last Void runs.
    Button Tapping

    Levi EX - Optional content
    CT raids - Optional content
    VA or Sephirot - Optional content
    Typhon or Deathgaze - Optional content
    Hit the button like Alex - Optional content

    The only special pieces of this I could recall being seen in MSQ is Shiva and the straight line alternating AoEs like Keeper. So there are a lot of mechanics that are going to be completely new if someone just does the MSQ. The difficulty of this trial is out of line with the difficulty of the MSQ leading up to it. I could see this for a Minstrel's Ballad version, but there are adjustments that need to be made to bring it in line with the difficulty curve of the MSQ.
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    TTB-Kun's Avatar
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    Kovu Aziva
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    Ragnarok
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    The fight is fine, if you are not able to clear the problem are just your skills
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    hynaku's Avatar
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    Inglis Eucus
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    Cuchulainn
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TTB-Kun View Post
    The fight is fine, if you are not able to clear the problem are just your skills
    How's it your problem when tanks and healers keep leaving and party gets disbanded. Means fight is not just fine how it is and needs to be changed.
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    Last edited by hynaku; 07-05-2017 at 02:22 PM.

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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Lamia
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by hynaku View Post
    How's it your problem when tanks and healers keep leaving and party gets disbanded. Means fight is not just fine how it is and needs to be changed.
    The fight itself is fine. What needs to happen is for people to actually learn their Job, the mechanics of the fight (most of which have been seen already) and have patience/teach newbies. A few days ago, I intentionally DF'd this fight and the party, consisting of mostly new people, cleared it on their second attempt.

    Nidhogg, Ozma, Scathach, Diabolos Hollow and Cruise Chaser (Blasty) were not nerfed.
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    Last edited by Nestama; 07-05-2017 at 10:42 PM.

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    Faeon Nightwhisper
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 70
    What I have noticed with this, is that players come into this fight without completing there lvl70 job quests. So they don't have there 290 job gear, which is a huge help for this fight.
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    Kiouki Silverpaw
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 70
    I hate that fight. Not because of the mechanics, because of the ppl that refuse to watch a guide or listen to explanations. Ppl dying over and over again to the same mechanics, not listening to advices etc. I had that dragon down to 4% and 3% on my first df group. But every other group after that has been a pain in the ***.
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    Spiroglyph's Avatar
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    Soft Boiled
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    Phoenix
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Oh my GOD not this thread AGAIN - all this fight needs in order to be completed is a little effort from people in order to pay attention, and a little patience from people (wiping a couple of times is OKAY, don't vote abandon after a single failure)
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    Riusvell's Avatar
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    Vell R'ius
    World
    Lich
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 100
    I would suggest going back to the 2.0 primals if you can't understand certain attacks.
    As most of them are from 2.0, no joke.
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