Quote Originally Posted by Shiroe View Post
those are utility: mantra, rez.;
but they are more for world-prog or 1st clears metas

for speed farming /fastest clears metas; you mostly need "dps" buff/debuff utilities...

mnk might be better for the mantra henve 1st clears, ..but for speed clears (which will probably make up more of the parties), Sam will shine over Mnk
Assuming that will be the case...would that be a problem? Keep in mind that the difference in rDPS in a party with a SAM has been estimated to be around 100 dps points higher than a party using a MNK instead. And this 100 dps difference might be further limited with party buffs alignment. Again...is this a problem? Again...do we want sam to be a worse choice for raid progression AND speedrunning?