SAM out classing all other DPS

[Ryaz]

Monk, Ninja and DRG can all LOSE their resources. Their main means of DPS, simply because the boss decided to jump away or the mechanic dictates that you leave the boss for a certain amount of time.
Now, these 3 melee can attempt to upkeep their buffs with various abilities, but it does require a decent amount of player skill to do so.

SAM? Boss leaves? So what, Sen and Kenki is there to stay. They're simply not punished at all by boss mechanics. Their rotation is very simple too, and requires no double weaving of any kind. The most complex thing SAM has is Kenki skill usage, which does take time to get used to I'll admit.
Overall, I really do feel DRG or even MCH is a harder job to play than SAM. Which kinda debunks the whole "this job is so strong because it's difficult" comment.

Just a question, does Ninki actually degrade? I was under the impression that it works like Kenki and doesn't. And most people have realized that DRG and MCH are in a bad place right now. I don't think anyone is arguing that they're good.

The easiest way to balance selfish DPS and DPS with support abilities is to remove support abilities from those DPS classes altogether. Distribute them among your tanks, healers and ranged support (brd/much) and simply worry about numbers with DPS classes. I don't see that happening, though.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

Just a question, does Ninki actually degrade? I was under the impression that it works like Kenki and doesn't. And most people have realized that DRG and MCH are in a bad place right now. I don't think anyone is arguing that they're good.

Oath, blood, Lily, Beast, Ninki, Kenki, Ammo, Aetherflow, Chakra, Fairy, B/W Mana and HEAT all don't degrade if they aren't used, and stay wherever they were indefinitely when you aren't hitting stuff. I remember wandering around for a while with 95 Heat outside of my FC for a few hours because I was lazy and it never dipped. The only point gauges empty if you change zones.

[Leonus]

Oath, blood, Lily, Beast, Ninki, Kenki, Ammo, Aetherflow, Chakra, Fairy, B/W Mana and HEAT all don't degrade if they aren't used, and stay wherever they were indefinitely when you aren't hitting stuff. I remember wandering around for a while with 95 Heat outside of my FC for a few hours because I was lazy and it never dipped. The only point gauges empty if you change zones.

*slow clap*


Man, it surprises me how many people don't know this. People always spouting "every other job looses all their resources".

Lol, wut? Really? Is that what you see? Everybody looses everything except Rem and Sam.

[Lastelli]

Just a question, does Ninki actually degrade? I was under the impression that it works like Kenki and doesn't. And most people have realized that DRG and MCH are in a bad place right now. I don't think anyone is arguing that they're good.

The easiest way to balance selfish DPS and DPS with support abilities is to remove support abilities from those DPS classes altogether. Distribute them among your tanks, healers and ranged support (brd/much) and simply worry about numbers with DPS classes. I don't see that happening, though.

Of course ninki doesn't degrade, just like chakra stacks and most other resources for other jobs except for self buffs. Speaking of buffs, SAM loses 2 that are very similar to greased lightning when taken together. The guy doesn't know what he's talking about, he probably didn't even unlock the job. And of course he doesn't know how NIN works at all since NIN is the melee job less affected by boss jumps.

[Ryaz]

Of course ninki doesn't degrade, just like chakra stacks and most other resources for other jobs except for self buffs. Speaking of buffs, SAM loses 2 that are very similar to greased lightning when taken together. The guy doesn't know what he's talking about, he probably didn't even unlock the job. And of course he doesn't know how NIN works at all since NIN is the melee job less affected by boss jumps.

Alright, thanks. So I was right. I was just confused for a moment because he included Ninja in losing resources, which I could swear didn't happen, and wanted to confirm. Haven't played Ninja since the expansion, so I wasn't 100% certain.

[HoLoFoNo]

Alright, thanks. So I was right. I was just confused for a moment because he included Ninja in losing resources, which I could swear didn't happen, and wanted to confirm. Haven't played Ninja since the expansion, so I wasn't 100% certain.

NIN can lose huton but it's hardly an issue.