Quote Originally Posted by Exiled_Tonberry View Post
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did you try sam? seriously get the best dps of his mechanic is not that simple, it's easy to mess up badly... i do have a few 70 and serious sam is the one that ask me the more work actually for bring the max dps from it.
the system is not extremely complicate, but the error is possible, simply the backlash is not visible on the short time.

class like monk or ninja don't have that much trouble them cycle is simple in comparaison (and i have nin 70 before you begin to say i don't know what i'm talking about) use wisely the kenki and the different skill is not that simple and people need to stop to say: sam is too strong, when i see some class get insane burst with little work.

Quote Originally Posted by HoLoFoNo View Post
You can pretty much immediately tell who is a SAM main by the salt tinged comments. I'm all for a bit of class loyalty but from what I've seem its all the SAM and RDM mains who get the most offended when you imply that their class is better than the others in its role.

SAM is good, not broken but it is pretty much guaranteed in a static. From what I have seen the optimal DPS comp is SAM/NIN/RDM and the wildcard is BRD/MNK. BRD will probably be better for prog but MNK for speedkills.

As others have said, there will always be a strongest and a weakest. There will always be an absolute meta comp. I do agree that caster heavy comps need limelight for once as the meta has always been either 3/4 or 4/4 physical. I was really hoping for a caster meta and Melee meta but meh, that's what you get when you focus on physical damage (Real talk, why is embolden and brotherhood only physical damage???? It's honestly like they want it to be 3/4 physical.)

That being said, SAM and NIN (and RDM) are pretty much absolute. That is how good SAM is. It is quite lenient so it isn't bothered much about mechanics and is also fairly simple. This means it gives the most bang for your buck in most cases anyway. Also I want to dispell the myth that meta only applies to the 1%. This is NOT true as the meta comp will always make a fight faster/easier no matter your skill level. The only difference is how necessary it is. The meta comp is pretty much certain for the race for the world first and for speed kills but isn't NEEDED anywhere else. It will always, however, be far more convenient.
we had a similar situation before with drg/brd no one was shocked... people simply need to accept change