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    Aomine1992's Avatar
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    Daiki Sejuro
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    Behemoth
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    Summoner Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Or since theres a high population of samurai right now, and not many monks, the numbers are skewed. But lets continue with hating on SAM for no reason.
    This pretty much ended her argument right here there are way more SAMs then anything else besides RDM so the data is a bit biased currently....
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    Oscura's Avatar
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    Shion Sumeragi
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    Gilgamesh
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    Samurai Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Aomine1992 View Post
    This pretty much ended her argument right here there are way more SAMs then anything else besides RDM so the data is a bit biased currently....
    There is no bias in data.

    If your argument is just that the class is so overwhelmingly popular that it eclipses even Red Mage, and that it just happens that all these super skilled players are all playing SAM simultaneously, that still sets off alarms.

    In any other game, if all the top players or even most of the top players are always using the same character or one character in their team, party or whatever, that character is eventually recognized as imbalanced. Overwatch had the same problem. Mccree had an over 100% use rate at one point in competitive because people would rock two of them in one team. When there's such an imbalance of pick numbers, or in FFXIV's case, parses and/or parties that include SAM vs ones that don't, there's a massive red flag. Popularity does not dictate balance, but to imply that because something is popular you cannot determine it's balance is short sighted.

    @Lastelli
    I don't care if my job is in the top FFlogs parsing. I really don't. If I cared so badly I'd just play Samurai. I like Samurai. It's a fun class. I'm just being critical of it. Red Mage is too strong, it can raise better than healers, manage mechanics better than BLM, and has more reliable damage than SMN since SMN's damage is purely reliant on burst periods. I must be crazy though, actually criticizing that my class is too good. God forbid.

    Edit: Also "no build up time necessary" guess that black/white mana bar is just there for show and does nothing for RDM.
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    Last edited by Oscura; 07-03-2017 at 06:47 AM.

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    Sylvana Tenebri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscura View Post
    In any other game, if all the top players or even most of the top players are always using the same character or one character in their team, party or whatever, that character is eventually recognized as imbalanced. Overwatch had the same problem. Mccree had an over 100% use rate at one point.
    Hi. I'm Ninja. I've been a requirement in every static since my inception due to my decent personal dps, forgiving rotation, and TA, which is the single most reliable dps raid buff that any job in game can boast, with dependable gains and an absolutely massive effect to everyone in my team. Don't worry, I'm still a mandatory requirement for every serious static, regardless of what anyone else thinks, regardless of damage type.

    Seriously. Ninja is the only job that's been used 100% since release in 2.4, with every other job falling in and out of the meta. Remind me again why SAM doing good damage is a problem?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    Hi. I'm Ninja. I've been a requirement in every static since my inception due to my decent personal dps, forgiving rotation, and TA, which is the single most reliable dps raid buff that any job in game can boast, with dependable gains and an absolutely massive effect to everyone in my team. Don't worry, I'm still a mandatory requirement for every serious static, regardless of what anyone else thinks, regardless of damage type.

    Seriously. Ninja is the only job that's been used 100% since release in 2.4, with every other job falling in and out of the meta. Remind me again why SAM doing good damage is a problem?
    Quote Originally Posted by Oscura View Post
    I am critical of Red Mage. I am critical of Samurai. I was critical of Warrior. I was critical of Scholar. I was critical of the DRG/NIN/MCH meta. I am critical of NIN to this day.
    Please learn to read.

    I am not going to go on a rant or talk about Ninja in a Samurai centered thread.
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    Last edited by Oscura; 07-03-2017 at 10:19 AM. Reason: typo