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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiroe View Post
    The buffs like the drg buffs, BL and piercing, in the past where too strong, they should be more minor in a "nice to have" way and but "most wanted" manor. Drg were overused in most parties. At least now more dps have buffs to contribute. But so many leaving Mch and other jobs for the promised dps-beast Samurai.

    In case of lowering the party buffs, the personal dps of most dps should be increased. So atleast in some fights, depending on mechanics or such, they can still compete with Sam.
    DRG weren't overused, it was just flat out stronger than MNK due to raid DPS increases. MNK was higher DPS than DRG in 3.xx, not by a large margin though (5-10% maybe). Guess what? 5-10% stronger was not enough for MNK to win against DRG, when Disembowel buffed BRD and MCH DPS, and Battle Litany buffed everyone. 10% stronger than NIN meant nothing when NIN offered TA.

    This is what I'm talking about. Jobs CAN compete with SAM, and ARE. If you aren't seeing it, you're just not looking hard enough. Let's break it down. Pretty much every DPS in this game (other than BLM and SAM now) offer at least one of two (or both) forms of support to a party. Either Physical Damage Support or General Support (things like Smoke Bomb/Mantra). If we break it down further, what does every DPS bring?

    MCH- Damage buffs
    BRD- HP/MP buffs, Damage buffs
    NIN- Damage buffs, Enmity manipulation (which indirectly increases Tank DPS by allowing more DPS stance/combos)
    MNK- Damage buffs, Mantra
    DRG- Damage buffs, More damage buffs
    SMN- Damage buffs, Res
    RDM- Damage buffs, Healing, Res
    SAM- Nothing.
    BLM- Nothing.

    Why are WHM afraid of not being brought to raid? Not because they can't do their Job. They certainly fulfill the healing role. It's because they don't bring anything extra to the table (also they don't like lillies). Why were MNK not brought to raid last expansion? They brought nothing extra to the party (people didn't even care that it had mantra). So why do you think, when we've already seen how this has played out with MNK (and nobody cared about the utility OR raw DPS of MNK), that SAM will be fine when put in the same (but worse) situation?

    Also, again, you can not argue that SAM is too powerful when you have RDM who bring 3 unique things as a DPS (AND good DPS).
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    Last edited by Nominous; 06-25-2017 at 02:37 AM.