Quote Originally Posted by HolyTurtle View Post
Conclusion: NIN raid dps contribution is higher than SAM raid dps contribution at 80 and 90 percentiles. The same calculations can be done for other percentiles.
Weird, I though I included where I took my data in my post. Oh well.
I took the average numbers pulled out from the Top100 parses regarding individual DPS of both NIN and SAM. The difference was about 350 DPS in favor of SAM. Which means that Trick Attack should do at least 350 DPS from 7 other party members for the NIN to be on par with SAM. For a 1.67% damage increase, this equals to 21k group DPS.
So, my numbers are definitly correct.

What differ is what data we use. And it's true that the difference in DPS between NIN and SAM when looking at specific percentiles doesn't align with what I found.

However, I will say that your assumption greatly depends on the fact that your group must share the same percentile between all players. I only went as far as assuming that SAM and NIN had the same skill level (which is what to assume from both Top100). On my side, I checked several real parses, only to see that player's skill is far from being homogeneous. In fact, quite a high number of parses from Top100 SAM and NIN had these players being atleast 96% perf, while the rest of the group was below 50%.
In these groups, a NIN provides way less overall DPS to the group than the SAM.

And this was my main conclusion, supported by your calculations: for NIN to be on par with SAM, the whole group needs to be top notch. This condition greatly devalues Trick Attack and often leads to the situation I described.

But still, it's hard to compare our results, as we both used very different data and, obviously, assumed that we took the right approach.