SAM out classing all other DPS

[RichardButte]

The only one missing the point is you. It's been explained twice now, that their high damage is to make up for its lack of utility.

The real question is going to be, however, whether or not this matters in actual raiding situations.

And TBH, I'm not sure how they're going to manage to pull that off. I can see why BRD would bring a lot to the table with it's raid wide crit buff and whatnot, but not every DPS has something on par with that.

And if they don't, the question remains: why not play SAM?

[HyoMinPark]

The real question is going to be, however, whether or not this matters in actual raiding situations.

I'm guessing that groups that want speedy kills with high DPS/inflated parses will pick a SAM for their group. If for nothing else than for those inflated group parser numbers.

It will be interesting to see what the new raid meta will look like. Some jobs, I feel, have already solidified their spots in raid metas (such as BRD because of its immense utility, and AST because everyone loves Balances). For the others, it will be interesting to see how the meta develops.

[RichardButte]

I'm guessing that groups that want speedy kills with high DPS/inflated parses will pick a SAM for their group. If for nothing else than for those inflated group parser numbers.

It will be interesting to see what the new raid meta will look like. Some jobs, I feel, have already solidified their spots in raid metas (such as BRD because of its immense utility, and AST because everyone loves Balances). For the others, it will be interesting to see how the meta develops.

Agreed.

I'm on "wait and see" mode right now, but I know MCH is going to be laughed out of raids without some serious buffs right now: parses below BRD with next to no raid utility.

If SAM stays this way, I can see SAM stacking becoming a thing for DPS races.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Oh really? Do you have it to 70? have you played its full rotation? If not, then go level it and then say its easy. the SAM finishers have cast times. You can't get them off while moving.

Also, the emnity list means nothing. you could have a bunch of bad dps, or you could be a bad tank. We don't know.

[BelraugFire]

good job everyone else bad. hope they dont roast you for that. As for me being a good tank, thats up to the people in the party, not some one who has never played with me.

I will be leveling it up soon, but doesnt mean its not easy. Im mean if you think its hard, then maybe its you.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

good job everyone else bad. hope they dont roast you for that. As for me being a good tank, thats up to the people in the party, not some one who has never played with me.

I will be leveling it up soon, but doesnt mean its not easy. Im mean if you think its hard, then maybe its you.

Oh I dont think its hard, but then, I've always had a knack for melee jobs. But the fact you think the rotation is not complex means you won't be able to bring out the jobs fullest potential.

[BelraugFire]

i like that meme yo. It didnt start out as a troll, it only turned into that since they wanted to attack me instead of considering the view i was trying to make. I am not alone in think that sam is just a little OP. Balancing is need.

[BelraugFire]

1. I know how to debate, the way you brought your argument to the table had hostility in it, so you need to learn what a civil debate is. 2. When you and others started questioning my skill as a player, that is called an attack, learn the difference. 3. Your argument is not justified cause there is another class similar to it (mnk) that did not have the ridiculous damage output that you claim sam needs. 4. Pro tip, Admitting that i purposely wanted to make you angry because you have no reasonable argument does not de-legitimize my point, it proves it by how angry you got to defend the class rather than call out its faults. 5. I do accept the fact you dont agree and to further prove that you are attacking me, you have sought fit to insult my intelligence by claiming your side is the reasonable side, that i cant listen, and that i cant have a civil debate. I wish for you to have a good day and in the future refrain from attacking people because they see differently than you.

[Selova]

1. I know how to debate, the way you brought your argument to the table had hostility in it, so you need to learn what a civil debate is. 2. When you and others started questioning my skill as a player, that is called an attack, learn the difference. 3. Your argument is not justified cause there is another class similar to it (mnk) that did not have the ridiculous damage output that you claim sam needs. 4. Pro tip, Admitting that i purposely wanted to make you angry because you have no reasonable argument does not de-legitimize my point, it proves it by how angry you got to defend the class rather than call out its faults. 5. I do accept the fact you dont agree and to further prove that you are attacking me, you have sought fit to insult my intelligence by claiming your side is the reasonable side, that i cant listen, and that i cant have a civil debate. I wish for you to have a good day and in the future refrain from attacking people because they see differently than you.

First off, no one in this thread called into question your skill as a player. Once again, you made the claim that samurai is a easy class while at the same time proving you don't understand how the job performs and calling for nerfs because the class is doing what it is designed to do. Multiple posters have explained the design intent behind samurai and how the job isn't as easy as you are claiming. Once again no one is attacking you, this is called a debate. You state your opinion on something and people disagree with you, that's how this works. I've spent more time that i'd like to admit debating this topic, It's clear that after admitting that all you were doing was trying to provoke a emotional response from people (which you failed at) and how you still don't understand the samurai job despite multiple people explaining it to you that I and many others are wasting our time. Your opinion on the state of samurai is your own, in the future when people debate your opinions, try to at least stay on topic instead of pulling the "personal attack" card. I'd also highly recommend you at least play jobs at max level before passing around information about them. With that I'll see myself out, good luck in your future endeavors and have fun in Stormblood.

[Psycofang]

So he admitted to trolling right as i was about to post. Welp glad we know we dont have to listen to him at all ever.