SAM out classing all other DPS

[Elnidfse]

Tf? NIN and MNK are right behind SAM in terms of damage. SAM does not have a solidified slot in a raid, NIN is literally the ONLY melee with a guaranteed spot atm. DRG/SMN/MCH are the only classes atm that things look bleak for, every other class can find a slot.

To say you dont count Raise as utility is bs. A RDM can do the same DPS as a BLM with alot less effort, but what pushes RDM over? Embolden and Raise, which will be a good send in prog.

To say I don't count?
1)You mean to say that yoshi-p does not count support when balancing DPS http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...80#post4263080
You can appeal to whatever you want but it means little with the guy who's in charge of this game does not support the point you stand behind.
2) Nobody is not counting Embolden. Embolden is a RDPS increase. An rDPS increase is NOT a supportive defensive increase. It's a rDPS increase. Unless you are part of the cast that have the mindset of "if SAM gets a 2% nerf they won't be competitive" there's nothing to discuss here.

[MiruWest]

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Embolden isnt utility? TA isnt utility, BL isnt utility, Disembowel isnt utility? oh wait its actually IS considered utility by the community.

SAM doesnt need a nerf when you have the 2 other melee right behind it in terms of raw dps. Only melee needing to be brought up is DRG and all will be good. People need to stop crying for nerfs when they dont even have a legitimate reason for nerfing them.

[MahoSenshi]

Leveled SAM to 70 and 68 NIN atm - the latter feels much easier to play, honestly.

[Vexsteel]

salt salt salt

[Noata]

I am up for adjustments to classes, It kind of shows when the two new designed classes seem to work very well. Also the issue I have with Samurai is that they ignore any form of loss out side of two positional for 5 Kenki. At least when Monk was a greedy DPS they had to put some effort in. I was kind of salty about Monk when I first got to 70 because well I basically leveled up ten levels and got crappy moves and a 30% damage increase buff. I like the buff but like Tornado Kick everything else is situational or useless. *cough* Tackle Mastery.


On my Monk I have to play insanely optimal and constantly manage chakra as I move, or form shift, make sure my dot never overlaps, Utilize Tornado Kick if all hope is lost for GL, or have enough time on GL to where Riddle of Earth extends it. And If I do all of this right, I should fail at passing a less skilled samurai. I have seen tons of people who bring up monk and really act like GL isn't a constant focus to maintain or that "Perfect Balance" will be up to restore it... I don't really want Samurai to lose potency... exactly, I wouldn't mind if They had a few positional's that like everyone else if not met meant less potency. I am not pretending to be the best monk, or even 90 or above percentile. I don't care if you beat me in DPS I just want you to have to work as hard as I have to to get there. That is the opinion of a random monk. Before you tell me how you earn your damage... Monk and my brother in need of some help Dragoon, we do much more to settle for less, and My class used to be that "Greedy DPS it is okay" class

[GunZLegend]

Math

Established Mathematical Values!? In my MMORPG!? A witch I say!

[Waliel]

do blm have positional? do blm need to return to melee after move because of a big aoe? do the blm risk to get a cleave because the tank move the boss?

Does melee lose one GCD worth of DPS every time a small circle or line targets them? BLM gets punished for every small movement they make and melee just has to strafe a little to dodge 95% of aoe while losing no DPS time at all.

BLM have 0 risk involved... you simply want to be the best dps of ranged, great news in terms of raws power in Final Fantasy series.... Summoner is the true big dps of ranged. blm is only the caster that have spell that allows to be efficient most of the time (because of weakness, what we don't have here)

The only risk melee have in this game is if they run in front of the boss and get cleaved, but that's like running into fire as a caster and wondering why you died.

blm don't have any mana management, you switch into ice umbral and your mana is back, other need to manage them mana... honestly speaking, for me blm player are like diva that don't accept that other can do better than them... and since....pfiuu.... for age. not the first time blm come and complain to not be top dps...

We don't have mana management per se, but we can randomly get screwed over by server ticks. What if you as a melee would randomly lose your combo before the last hit? And if you did do your last combo instead of starting over, you'd drop to 0 TP.

RDM need to go in melee for them burst, then get ahead of blm is normal... whenever a jobs need to get in melee they need to take risk.

The risk of accidentally doing more DPS?

blm is not more affected than any ranged class with cast... plus he get 2 skill for instant cast then *shrugs* (without forget the proc that allows to cast instant a few spell)

BLM is the most affected of any jobs in this game by any movement. Second highest dummy DPS doesn't mean anything when you can't actually utilize it.

[Nite83]

All this complaining is going to suck the fun right out of the game. Stop asking for nerfs. You are some damn cry babies. His/her toy is better than mine take it away.

[Tint]

All this complaining is going to suck the fun right out of the game. Stop asking for nerfs. You are some damn cry babies. His/her toy is better than mine take it away.

when one class is superior people will start playing that class more. they will also start excluding other classes from their party, wich will force more and more players to play that better class and people who don't like the gameplay / style / whatever of the better class will quit the game. not to mention all the work square put into the other classes are wasted resscources. they could have just removed them from the game in an instant instead of spending time and money on developing new skills for them just to let them slowly die then.

[Greedalox]

All this complaining is going to suck the fun right out of the game. Stop asking for nerfs. You are some damn cry babies. His/her toy is better than mine take it away.

Such a thought provoking concept. /s