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    Player
    Oscura's Avatar
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    Shion Sumeragi
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    Gilgamesh
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    Samurai Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Nominous View Post
    Translation of the part singling out SAM.
    It was their intent.
    Of course it was their intent to single it out?
    Did I ever imply it wasn't?

    The point of this post is lost on me, because it seems you're trying to either make an argument or argue with something that isn't there.

    Edit: I get your meaning now, you mean that the "intent" was that SAM does more damage. All this is doing is restating the obvious though, everyone knows SAM was supposed to do more damage. It's the how much more that matters. SE has already stated they're going to make adjustments to damage dealers at 4.05 and that they apparently already have an eye on what to rebalance. So we can only wait and see.
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    Last edited by Oscura; 07-04-2017 at 03:21 PM.

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    Nominous Lhant
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    Balmung
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    Lancer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Oscura View Post
    Of course it was their intent to single it out?
    Did I ever imply it wasn't?

    The point of this post is lost on me, because it seems you're trying to either make an argument or argue with something that isn't there.
    "It doesn't bode well that they single SAM out in this post."

    Point is, it doesn't mean anything that they were singled out in the post. But if it did, it certainly wouldn't be foreboding anything that you're implying. They don't think they hit the mark 100%, but this is exactly how they want it to be balanced. The degree of which, who knows. It certainly doesn't seem as if they're worried in the way everyone else is though. They make more comments on how 'playable' a Job is, which sounds more like QoL, and slight potency changes to reflect such things, if anything. Which was also reflected in the translation.
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    Last edited by Nominous; 07-04-2017 at 03:24 PM.

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    Sylvana Tenebri
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    Malboro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscura View Post
    It does not bode well that they specifically singled out Samurai in that post.
    Well, I'm just going to sigh and shrug when the meta once again becomes NIN/DRG. Those two have the strongest raid buffs, and even a tiny nerf to SAM will make them 100% undesirable. I've seen people singling SAM out due to having no utility and avoiding having them in party.
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    Ohlala Chica
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    Alchemist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Oscura View Post
    It does not bode well that they specifically singled out Samurai in that post.
    Meaning, Sam won't nerfed, the others will get buffed instead to balance it out.

    And looking at Omega normal mode, Blm could use a buff or change too lol.
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    Florence Leduc
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    i can't read japanese haha what it say?
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    Wynne Yilmaz
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    i can't read japanese haha what it say?
    TL;DR from google translate is that SAM is getting adjustments in 4.05 with the release of Omega Savage. Adjustments for other jobs in 4.05 is likely.

    Also tanks are getting enmity adjustments in 4.01 (they cite low level duties as an issue for maintaining hate) and they plan to do something about tank damage scaling and the i270 shire/alex jewelry in 4.05.
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    Last edited by magnanimousCynic; 07-04-2017 at 01:42 PM.
    I was the Almighty Enkidu for April Fools 2017.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beckett View Post
    To be fair, it's not so much a flame war as it's 12 pages of people agreeing the OP is an idiot.

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    Bardo Phor
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    Sargatanas
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    Archer Lv 70
    From an outsider looking in, I can't help but wonder:
    If you care enough about min-maxing that you see a 10% difference and think "liability" or "garbage", then why are you not leveling multiple jobs?

    There's always a Meta, and that meta changes nearly every time there's a balance patch or new content releases. If you level only one job, then you put yourself at risk of this same situation happening over and over, do you not? And it's not as though leveling multiple jobs is difficult.
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    Rhia Nara
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    So classes that are affected by mechanics more are supposed to do more dmg? Well Sam doesn't seem bothered too much by mechanics as far as I can tell.
    By that logic, Mnk or Blm dps should be a whole lot higher, being the ones most punished by mechanics.
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    Eberhild Langdale
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    Tonberry
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    Monk Lv 90
    People are saying SAM doesn't have utility, they have that slashing debuff. That's more than what us monks had before.

    On a side note, monk feels bad to play now. ;w;
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    Seirenes Seabringer
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    Faerie
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by 0811 View Post
    People are saying SAM doesn't have utility, they have that slashing debuff. That's more than what us monks had before.

    On a side note, monk feels bad to play now. ;w;
    I think the issue with slashing for sam is the same that was with the int debuff previously for monk, where it's not the only job that can do it, thus why it doesn't really get counted.
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