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  1. #1
    Player
    Avatar de Shurrikhan
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    septembre 2011
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    Character
    Tani Shirai
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Moine Lv 100
    Citation Envoyé par Janhyua Voir le message
    Samurai opener is literally rocket science!
    Just a single read through the tooltips, assuming H:K cannot affect Higanbana, would push one towards the weaponskill rotation:
    H S K H J IJ MS Y K G H:K-IJ and then rotate S J and Y while using 3-seal H:K-IJ, replacing 1-seal IJ as close as possible to when it falls off.

    The 2-3 GCD flexibility in reapplying Higanbana would seem to make the only difficult portions of the rotation the refresh on MS and when to use Hagakure.
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  2. #2
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    Avatar de MiruWest
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    Character
    Miru West
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Moine Lv 70
    SAM has 3 different openers that range from easy to hard which equates to the way your skills will line up down the road. People get this idea that SAM is so ez yet are 1000 dps below the next SAM who knows how to min/max the class. I'm sure a good portion of the player base here doesn't even know how to optimally play one but will still complain.

    Like someone said before, MNK was the sameway nut didn't bring enough DPS to warrant taking one and all of the MNK players were upset yet all the other class just sweep MNK under a rug, but now SE has produced a class that fits that mold perfectly and everyone looses their mind at the idea that your class may actually be replaced in a raid?

    Also, why is no one crying about BLM who are parsing right beside SAM?
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  3. #3
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    Avatar de Crewman
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    juin 2012
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    Character
    Feign Azurel
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Chevalier dragon Lv 61
    Citation Envoyé par MiruWest Voir le message
    Also, why is no one crying about BLM who are parsing right beside SAM?
    I want to take a wild guess and say it's because there aren't currently 1000s of BLM's running around at the moment.
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  4. #4
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    Avatar de Exiled_Tonberry
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    Sharl Llyntine
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Mage blanc Lv 100
    Citation Envoyé par Janhyua Voir le message
    You guys need to play samurai before you even consider posting here lol

    Samurai opener is literally rocket science! And the gauge management it's important too it's alot more complicated then you think

    I tried to master the samurai opener and could never get it right
    Take your own advice, and avoid commenting on SAM if you can't even get their rotation down.

    And no, just because you can't do it doesn't mean it's some unbelievably hard job. It's actually rather smooth.
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  5. #5
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    Avatar de abzoluut
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    Abzoluut Abzoluut
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 70
    I assume SE will wait until they have numbers from the first raid. Trying to balance jobs around trifling content is ludicrous and inefficient.

    It also feels disingenuous when people formulate facts based on I've seen, I've heard, it feels like and the likes. Feelcraft does not work when balancing jobs. I do hope SE looks at the numbers and tries to balance out the field.
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  6. #6
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    Avatar de Inuk9
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    Character
    Cacho'rro Dos'ventos
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Machiniste Lv 80
    Samurai openner os Rocket science lul.

    Most of 3.x dps openner were way more complex than SAM.

    If you wanna be elitist, at least pick a hard job to represent you
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  7. #7
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    Miru West
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    Behemoth
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    Moine Lv 70
    Yea sounds about right I guess.
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  8. #8
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    Avatar de Crewman
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    juin 2012
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    Character
    Feign Azurel
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    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Chevalier dragon Lv 61
    SAM is the new meta punching bag pretty much haha.
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  9. #9
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    Avatar de Kaiden019
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    Character
    Astrid Wolfshowl
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 67
    Why would they nerf SAM? It's doing exactly what the job was meant to do. Bring lots of damage. Their DPS isn't even that much higher than the other top DPS jobs. If you bring their damage down to where it is comparable to other classes, it loses all purpose as a job.
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  10. #10
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    Avatar de Crewman
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    juin 2012
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    Character
    Feign Azurel
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    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Chevalier dragon Lv 61
    ^ Agreed, balancing SAM would likely require some skill changes because they won't have anything to offer otherwise. I've said it numerous times but I think the argument is the logic SE used for the job was rather bad. The biggest point being if SAM puts out the most DPS, then that's all people will play for savage. I'd call it debatable because SAM has to constantly DPS and not die to keep that higher DPS number, but a lot of people do not consider anything beyond the pure numbers.
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