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  1. #51
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    Kacho_Nacho's Avatar
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    Kacho Nacho
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    Coeurl
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    White Mage Lv 98
    Quote Originally Posted by Sarevok_Thordin View Post
    Because everyone wants to see huge damage numbers on their screen.

    Of course there is a *GLARING* opportunity for you to take a tank/healer and make the difference for your duties.
    Well said!

    I just have to shake my head at these players of damage dealing jobs complaining about the queues. It all boils down to, "Why aren't other players switching to their healer or tank so I can play my damage dealer?"

    Of course, it never occurs to these players that if they switched to their healer/tank even a little, it would bring the queues down.

    Complaining to Yoshi-san isn't going to do a thing. The queues for damage dealers will only get shorter if damage dealers personally step up and play a tank or healer also. It doesn't need to be every run. Just pitch in a little each day and watch those queue times plummet.
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  2. #52
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    CapricaLangley's Avatar
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    Silent Bay
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    Ragnarok
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    Reaper Lv 100
    You guys have to understand that 4.0 tanking is plain boring. As soon as all tanks will end MSQs and EXs, there will be no more tanks in the game except die hard ones.
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  3. #53
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    Kacho Nacho
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hayward View Post
    Someone call an ambulance for all these tanks & healers who apparently broke their legs hopping off the bandwagon once they found out they actually have to DO their jobs as intended in Stormblood instead of gawking at their DPS.

    The rush to get SAM and/or RDM to 70 will die down soon enough. Party Finder can prove useful, though, as long as a tank or healer joins the group. Duty Finder is pointless otherwise.
    Huh? What are you going on about?

    We just spent two expansion arguing that healers and tanks should be doing their best to dps on top of their other duties and you throw this piece of garbage out? Whatever you are smoking, I don't want.

    The issue is a lot of healers and tanks don't like what SE did to their favorite job and went searching for greener pastures. It has nothing to do with tanks and healers having to suddenly do their jobs as intended.
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  4. #54
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    Araxes's Avatar
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    Runic Raven
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    Zodiark
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    Blacksmith Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by DinahDemiurge View Post
    I got warrior to 70 and don't like it. So I am one of the ones bailing on tanks. Leveling a healer now though...hope I can help your queue soon!
    I got my old Main to 70 first (PLD) they ruined tanking in SB for me so i switched Samurai. Its just the job for me and im happy with it, even though i have to wait 50-70 minutes for one Ex dungeon.
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  5. #55
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    SargentToughie's Avatar
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    Lana Arunika
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    Balmung
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Hayward View Post
    This kind of argument has never flown with me when it comes to non-DPS roles. If you're looking for adrenaline fixes through big number parses, tank and healer jobs were never--and should never be--designed for that purpose. I really don't feel sorry for DPS Tanks who made a mockery of the role and forced a STR tank mentality that SE thankfully knocked down late in Heavensward and buried outright in Stormblood.
    Ok, cool! Enjoy your hour long queues then. It's going to be a long expansion if you want us dirty DPS oriented tanks to shove off.
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  6. #56
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    Zojha's Avatar
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    Lodestone Bait
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    Pandaemonium
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacho_Nacho View Post
    It all boils down to, "Why aren't other players switching to their healer or tank so I can play my damage dealer?"
    No, it all boils down to:"Why does SE require more tanks/healers for content than the players are willing to provide?"

    Pretty sure many DPS players wouldn't actually mind if nobody would play tank/healer if the content was conveniently do-able without (Which is easy to facilitate, as you only need to remove un-avoidable damage from the equation). It just isn't, hence the issue. SE demands a certain amount of tanks/healers for content, the playerbase doesn't want to supply that amount, hence queues.
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  7. #57
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    Hyrist's Avatar
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    Lin Celistine
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    Goblin
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Making new Healers and DPS jobs won't matter if players don't play them. The changes to both tanks and healers are being knee-jerked in most cases (Yes, some vocal players are expressing dissatisfaction here, this is a forum, you expect people to be vocal more on the negative).

    I expect more healer and tank adjustments through the expansion, along with some DPS nerfs to tone the outliers down a little. However I don't hear many people stopping their Tanks completely, so much as putting them on the back burner to level jobs.

    But hey, if you just want to play a DPS, PvP Queue hasn't been shorter these days. As far as progress through things going as a DPS - Find a healer friend?
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