What is the point of playing DPS..

[whiteblade89]

I was originally planning to main DRK for SB because I loved it in HW and wanted to tank more in the future. But then SB dropped, and the fun of tanking went with it, at least for that job. It's mindlessly simple and the changes caused us to have more useless skills now than we did prior. Anything we can do, the other two (or at least PLD) can do better now. The only things we excelled at were mass pulling in dungeons because Blood Price used to be awesome, and mitigating magical damage because HW was basically all magical damage. Other than that, we weren't the best at anything but we were still fun and enjoyable with decent damage output. Now it's just spam Dark Arts on everything and do the same combo over and over. It actually plays a lot like PLD did in 2.0, which is why I switched to DRK in the first place. The bottom line is that the dps options in SB are just better and more engaging than the tank classes. And I hope that SE realizes how much of a problem this is going to be because we already have a lot of former career tanks switching to dps. But it's hard to see how they can improve the situation before 5.0. Here's hoping they pull their heads out of their rears and make tanking fun again.

[Pori_Dessu]

Did you check what DRK is like at lvl70? New skills should make it pretty interesting. If a class was nerfed or not shouldn't really matter unless you are doing hardcore endgame raiding. Server first clears and savages. Heck, I used a summoner in the coiltower way back when it was deemed to be complete trash, but we managed. Tanks survive if the heals are good enough and if the DPS is good enough (which is half the time isn't because people somehow never learn their rotations).
Every role is responsible for something and no class is so BAD that it wouldn't work.
Also don't be afraid of trying out healers. You can do some SICK DPS and heal. Some scholars out DPS many dedicated DPS roles if they know what they are doing.

I did actually. Tho I haven't leveled mine, a friend let me play on his this week, and... And I honestly think the new skills don't add much in terms of gameplay. From 60 to 70 you get:
- Delirium: Not interesting to use at all, especially since Blood Price is pretty bad and can only be used in Grit now.
- Quietus: Another AoE that you'll rarely use.
- Bloodspiller: A "Finishing Move" that you'll use every now and then.
- The Blackes Night: A shield that gives you Blood Gauge, but it's actually a DPS loss.
The whole Blood Gauge system ended up being pretty uninteresting. Besides, the removal of Scourge (Some DoT management), no more Delirium combo (Now it's just build aggro, repeat Souleater combo a trillion times), and MP management being overly simplified, DRK is just overall dumbed down, with new skills just being situational stuff that you use when you can for... Reasons... I loved DRK in HW, but now, can't stand it.
As for trying out healers, I seriously can't. I never could get into supportive playstyle in any games, as someone very self-centered it's a playstyle I can't adapt to.
PS.: Sorry about the huge post... The DRK topic really gets to me nowadays...

[YitharV2]

Get in a helpful FC. In my FC healers and tanks both help out DPS with their q times.

This. In my FC tanks and healers help DPS out with queue times.

[Chiramu]

A lot of people don't appreciate good Damage Dealers which is wrong. Good damage dealers let you skip multiple phases in extreme boss fights, acknowledge your damage dealers everyone! Give comms to damage dealers who are going out of their way to be the best they can. If you don't do this, your damage dealers will switch to heals or tank because they are not getting recognition for doing a good job(plus it's pretty hard getting the commendation rewards as dps because people don't see them).

There are many times where damage dealers out-perform the tank or the healer in your group. Don't be a sheep and think who is performing the best.

[HyperSMB]

-Snip-

It's not that I don't acknowledge them, you are just a dime a dozen. I can find good damage dealers by spinning a circle a pointing in a general direction. Now a good tank who uses his own cooldowns and self-heals that then allows me to DPS more and speed things up?....That is rare.

As for commendation, mine goes to the tank if he doesn't suck. As a healer, the only thing that effects my que time is the tank. He is the reason in tandem with my own choice I get a minute que. He gets the comms.

Also, I don't have ACT (PS4) nor do I care to watch DPS and guess who's doing the most work.

[Chiramu]

I can find good damage dealers by spinning a circle a pointing in a general direction.

No you can't actually. Really good damage dealers are very rare in this game, very few damage dealers are actually doing 110% that they can do. I'm amazed when I see a damage dealer performing beyond expectations and instantly give them a comm.

[FallenWings]

No you can't actually. Really good damage dealers are very rare in this game, very few damage dealers are actually doing 110% that they can do. I'm amazed when I see a damage dealer performing beyond expectations and instantly give them a comm.

Good players are rare. This is not a role exclusive thing.

Good tanks and healers are easier to spot since their roles are more obvious when they suceed or fail. You can't really tell which DPS is doing well besides giant aggro differences and even then theres aggro reduction skills which they should use.

Parser when?

[Lexia]

Playing as a dps has always been bad, when 2.0 launched I remember waiting 30 minutes for a DF to pop also, so this not really new.

[Amelia_Pond_Behemoth]

More people should take this as a reason to switch to tank or healer

Until they get yelled at for some trivial nonsense.

[Yahallo]

I feel part of the wait may be due to Tanks giving priority to friends, FC, and Link Shell mates. Like I noticed that lately whenever I queue into something, I am with someone and at times 2 other or even a full party. Rarely do I ever solo queue now. This reduces the number of slots that the tank's party has and thus anyone solo queueing is kind of getting leftovers.

So socializing more and getting into those Link Shells and FC's may be more important than ever.