Ninjas and melee

[Jazzys]

Is it just me or are they just terrible in big pvp settings?

Feels like a range fest. When me lee get close they just get stunned and nuked dead

[Koltik]

This has always been the case. Welcome to FFXIV PvP. Melee is only fun in 4v4, or if you have dedicated healers.

[Evilsyndicatemember]

Yes, melee have it the worst. You need to have a dedicated healer or have impeccable timing if you want to get battle high or fever

[Araxes]

Yes, melee have it the worst. You need to have a dedicated healer or have impeccable timing if you want to get battle high or fever

I could give you like.. 7? Screens on my Samurai with Fever on the last 2 Days, but It DEMANDS you to be extremely careful. Its not really fun to play Melee in 72 thats true but its the fastest way to level it up^^

[Urthdigger]

Yeah, my experiences leveling RDM and SAM via PvP is that I generally just ignore my melee skills on RDM, and stick to Enpi on my SAM, unless I can find someone who overextends past their group. Every time I decide "I'm gonna go burst that healer or damaged DPS!" I get swarmed to hell.

[kuma_aus]

For frontlines, Stealth is key for NINs to get kills. You most likely won't be able to do much when the whole enemy alliance is just waiting to attack something like when people are hanging out in the middle. You can get a quick kill if you see someone with really low HP (like 20% or lower) hanging back though, and with Shukuchi and the damage down buff (Think it's safeguard?), you might be able to get away without dying yourself even though as soon as you pop up most DPS will just hit tab and target you to damage.

But when everyone is focusing ice or something, it becomes a lot easier to get kills as Ninja thanks to stealth. Range DPS are very squishy and not everyone is paying that much attention to what's around them and waiting to react like when they are in the middle with nothing going around. It feels like I sometimes kill a range DPS at 100% HP all by my self with the stealth kill combo but it's hard for me to tell if others helped with the kill or not. And sometimes there are people missing a bit of health so I don't even need to use stealth assassinate to kill them, just get out of stealth with a Shadow Fang with charged up Ninki for a Bhavacakra or Raiton while doing the standard combo with Mugs.

[Yatsurugi]

I've gotten battle fevers in frontline. NIN has some crazy burst still.
You can't charge in to groups on your own, have to be within a pack or killing off stragglers.

Here's some stuff to try.

If in shatter, hit the ice until you build enough gauge to use hide, and before hide takes effect you can build up some more gauge. This lets you use bhavacakra for insane damage on an unsuspecting person. You can probably build enough gauge on them to use raiton too while they try to run away.

You can also use your adrenaline while hidden. Your hide doesn't go off until the adrenaline finishes casting too, before the changes if you tried this, your hide came off instantly I think.


I gotta say I do the miss the old NIN though of infinite hide, it was pretty OP though so it's about time it got nerfed.

[Arkenne]

One of my favorites in FL has been Shukuchi to range > Hyoton > LB kill > Shukuchi away.

[Lynart]

Is it just me or are they just terrible in big pvp settings?

Feels like a range fest. When me lee get close they just get stunned and nuked dead

I feel the same way; however, many MMORPGs have this issue. Don't take PvP too seriously lol (I'm trying really hard not to)

[yukkan]

Before 4.0 : Stealth + trick attack + assault +lb as parting gift = kill
After 4.0 : dagger throw, dagger throw , dagger throw, dagger throw, dagger throw, dagger throw ......15% hp left? trimudra raiton = kill