Is queue time just a part of the normal game now?

[Kaedan]

If you don't want queues, transfer off Balmung. It's free right now if you go to a preferred server.

And no, "I shouldn't have to transfer" is not a valid reply. If you choose to play on the most overcrowded server, then you are choosing to accept queues. That's the nature of the beast. If your FC is there, convince them to go with you or decided which is more important to you.

It's not SE's fault that you're playing on the most overcrowded server. You have the opportunity to transfer off for free, so if you choose not to, that's entirely on you. Other NA servers are having no problems, so it's up to you to make the decision.

[Azurymber]

If you don't want queues, transfer off Balmung. It's free right now if you go to a preferred server.

And no, "I shouldn't have to transfer" is not a valid reply. If you choose to play on the most overcrowded server, then you are choosing to accept queues. That's the nature of the beast. If your FC is there, convince them to go with you or decided which is more important to you.

It's not SE's fault that you're playing on the most overcrowded server. You have the opportunity to transfer off for free, so if you choose not to, that's entirely on you. Other NA servers are having no problems, so it's up to you to make the decision.

Read first post... It wasn't the "most overcrowded server" when 2.0 launched, which is when i started playing. Why should I get screwed off the server I've been in since launch because SE didn't limit registrations early enough?

[Kaedan]

Read first post... It wasn't the "most overcrowded server" when 2.0 launched, which is when i started playing. Why should I get screwed off the server I've been in since launch because SE didn't limit registrations early enough?

Again, not a valid reply.

It does not matter if you started on Balmung in 2.0. Whether or not you started there is completely irrelevant. As I said, I'm on Tonberry and it has recently become a congested server. I choose to stay and deal with the queues for personal reasons, and I have no right to complain because it's my choice not to transfer off... I can get a free transfer right now if the queues really bothered me.

And besides, in fact, Balmung WAS the most crowded server in 2.0.

[Seoulstar]

If you don't want queues, transfer off Balmung. It's free right now if you go to a preferred server.

And no, "I shouldn't have to transfer" is not a valid reply. If you choose to play on the most overcrowded server, then you are choosing to accept queues. That's the nature of the beast. If your FC is there, convince them to go with you or decided which is more important to you.

It's not SE's fault that you're playing on the most overcrowded server. You have the opportunity to transfer off for free, so if you choose not to, that's entirely on you. Other NA servers are having no problems, so it's up to you to make the decision.

Actually it can be. Considering they willingly accepted the money so people could transfer knowing well the server was full. Of course the people are to blame as well, but let's not pretend that SE is innocent here.

[EdwinLi]

Actually it can be. Considering they willingly accepted the money so people could transfer knowing well the server was full. Of course the people are to blame as well, but let's not pretend that SE is innocent here.

Well I often question why new people often join Balmung or any other already full populated servers despite knowing how full it is.

Ya they may have friends in real life that play on Balmung or the other full servers but a good amount of new players do not and are often attracted to high populated servers because there are more people in the servers.

It could be the desire to find easy pre-set up guilds or that there are more willing veteran players that may aid them as they advance.

However, most often I notice they don't really see the actual consequence of joining a high populated server until it is to late as the first day has shown with a bunch of people already quiting the game or moving to a different server in the game on 4.0 early access release because they could not join high populated servers like Balmung.

[MichiKyou]

My only issue with the queue is that it is so easy to avoid being kicked from the game.

It's exhausting trying to log on when you know 90% of people online are just afk at a NPC or fishing to avoid being kicked in a city.

Can square take more aggressive methods to kick afkers off server?

[Mazora_Espeon]

My only issue with the queue is that it is so easy to avoid being kicked from the game.

It's exhausting trying to log on when you know 90% of people online are just afk at a NPC or fishing to avoid being kicked in a city.

Can square take more aggressive methods to kick afkers off server?

You better make sure I don't catch you AFK'ing in the future once this problem/issue is resolve. And I will ask anyone that you know if you have ever been AFK'd in the game and if the answer is yes, then you have nothing to say. And that goes to ALL of you who play this game regardless of what server you are on. Everyone is included!

[HyperSMB]

You better make sure I don't catch you AFK'ing in the future once this problem/issue is resolve. And I will ask anyone that you know if you have ever been AFK'd in the game and if the answer is yes, then you have nothing to say. And that goes to ALL of you who play this game regardless of what server you are on. Everyone is included!

Seems a little...weird of a response.

You know, some of us are on servers where we don't have to worry about getting AFK booted. Hell happened to me three times today for idling outside my apartment while watching professional league matches. Managed to instantly log back in everytime.

I am going to have to assume you AFK exploit based on your response tone.

[Ayer2015]

Seems a little...weird of a response.

You know, some of us are on servers where we don't have to worry about getting AFK booted. Hell happened to me three times today for idling outside my apartment while watching professional league matches. Managed to instantly log back in everytime.

I am going to have to assume you AFK exploit based on your response tone.

I know I did. Nearly everyone was in Balmung. The community is a large part of the continued problem.

[Mazora_Espeon]

Seems a little...weird of a response.

You know, some of us are on servers where we don't have to worry about getting AFK booted. Hell happened to me three times today for idling outside my apartment while watching professional league matches. Managed to instantly log back in everytime.

I am going to have to assume you AFK exploit based on your response tone.

I know I did. Nearly everyone was in Balmung. The community is a large part of the continued problem.

It's not a weird response, it's called a scolding. And just as Ayer had said above, I too have no problem admitting that I have exploited the AFK Timer Penalty, but it was to make lunch, use the restroom, take a shower. At the most, I would be gone for an hour and then come back to play again non-stop for 3-5 hours or even longer since I currently have the time. What I don't do is leave my character logged in overnight because unlike those people, I actually do enjoy my sleep and I wake up early the next morning to login and play the game. And because of the state on things on Balmung, this is what it has come down to with everyone exploiting the AFK Timer Penalty to avoid having to get stuck in the long 3k+ queue cause by an influx of people trying to login.

And exploitation of the AFK Timer Penalty isn't the only problem. That's only one part of the situation. The other problem lies with SE's part to limit the number of people that can be online at a given time and moderating the rate at which people log into the game to avoid causing stress on the servers and preventing them from having a meltdown. And the grievance is the players who dislike having this kind of restriction place on them coupled with the fact that Square Enix should have solved the problem long time ago. Unfortunately, their means of resolving the issue is to get people to move off the large populated servers. Except, doing such a thing lies an even bigger problem. It has been over four years since the launch of FFXIV: A Realm Reborn and within that four years, these large populated server have become a developed community (kinda like a developed country/world). People has since build connections, made friends and even some have considered each other "family" (to whatever extent that sense of family is to them). And grant it, this may be a game, but the people sitting on the other side of the screen is real. There feelings, emotions and thoughts. IT'S ALL REAL.

So like others have said, it's basically Square Enix giving other people a huge slap to the face saying... "Get the **** out or deal with it!" And so the people exploiting the AFK Timer Penalty is there way of dealing with this. Some people in the Balmung community feel that it's because of the people on the server's fault for the long login queue, while others feel that it is Square Enix fault for not taking care of these issues/problems to begin with and had allow the server to get this far. And I would guess that it was Square Enix's reason to not stop letting people transfer because they may have wanted people to play with their friends. Not to mention that they were getting money for the transfers anyway so it was a win for them. But now... what you're seeing the consequences of allowing server transfers with little to no limitations. In the end, the question who's fault is it that's causing this issue and where the blame of responsibility lie in this situation. The truth of the answer would be no one since both parties would be guilty.

However, the subject I'm talking about isn't about login queues, it's about people complaining about not having a more strict AFK Timer Penalty and then coming back around after things have all settled to complain about the AFK Timer Penalty, saying how they don't want that kind of restriction. This is what happened during the FFXIV: ARR launch. People dislike the AFK Timer Penalty especially those who played a DPS class because those people would go AFK while waiting for their instance to popped since it can take possibly hours for them to queue up. Of course, this was also because of the lack of people doing old previous content. And so now... This is where the status of the situation is at. SO... in conclusion, my point is that no one better complain about something and then come back and saying they want to take it back. That is what I'm saying. And no offense to you, but you're not even on Balmung so I would personally appreciate if you get off my back. Please and thank you!