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    Player
    Shai's Avatar
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    Hawaii
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    Shai Hulud
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    Hyperion
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    Scholar Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Underlord View Post
    In my opinion it depends on the tank. I've had tanks where I can easily dps, and others where I spam heal to just survive.
    Absolutely this. Don't be fooled into thinking the [entire] burden is on you. There is a lot of bad tanking going around.

    It was the same when HW launched. We will have new tomes and higher iLv gear in a week.
    Even the bad tanks will not get hit like trucks for too much longer.
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    Psycofang's Avatar
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    Character
    Void Fang
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    Zalera
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    Goldsmith Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    There is more damage going out, and we may also be experiencing tanks still adjusting to CDs and abilities the way we're having to adjust to all our changes. Tanks also don't seem to have gotten the message yet that maybe they shouldn't pull like insane monkeys until they gear up more.
    Theyre still doing it successfully now in sub 300 gear. Had a drk in 29-300 gear mass pull like a monster in a lvl 70dungeon and the healer wasnt having issues.
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    Inuk9's Avatar
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    Character
    Cacho'rro Dos'ventos
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 80
    It doesn't matter if you "have no problems". It is a fact the damage output is about 20% higher from enemies. Yes, good healers and tankers will never gonna have problems because they simply adapt.
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    Nicodemus_Mercy's Avatar
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    Nicodemus Mercy
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    Midgardsormr
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    Sage Lv 100
    I'm definitely spending more time healing with less opportunity for dps in SB than in HW.... and I'm delighted by it. It's definitely more effort on my part to keep the party healthy, but I am really enjoying it.
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    How many men am I involved with? Well that depends... do you mean men as in males? Or just midlanders?

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    EaMett's Avatar
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    Ea Sin
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    Faerie
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Hmm Dunno. To me it's just same old same old. Regen, swiftcast medica2, dots/holy/dps. Use ogcd skills to avoid casting cures. Rince and repeat. I can simply last longer now that we have proper mana management.
    The only tense moments I've had as whm is when the tank pulls those two pack right before the wave of bulldogs in Ala Mhigo, those brutes hit hard.
    Ex trials with learning parties tend to be hardcore healing though. Once people get the 320 gear and get used to the fights it'll probably be easy.
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    Archamgel's Avatar
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    Logan Grayborn
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    This is temporary. It happened at the beginning of HW too. Just wait until the gear from raids/capped tomestones is out, and we'll be back to overgearing everything.
    Oh yeah, totally, but I still found it far easier to heal the damage that came from the trash in HW than it is here.

    Though, the HW thing could be me playing Sch when it did need a few nerfs (but I think they overdid it with 4.0).
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    ElainaMason's Avatar
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    Character
    Elaina Mason
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    Odin
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    I can't really say something about the trial-extreme fights but I think healing is not harder right now.
    It depends on our group and especially on our tank, if we need to heal a lot. Maybe tanks get a little bit more dmg, but doesn't really matter.
    So I would say most of the time I can DPS a lot.
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    Starflake's Avatar
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    Character
    Freja Reginleif
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 90
    The Extremes are probably the easiest extremes I ever had to heal. Higher healer checks? Please, give me a break. Mobs in dungeons hit just as hard as they did in Heavensward at the start. It's just that the majority of tanks still think they're doing an expert roulette. Not really had issues healing through it though. On WHM still plenty of room to DPS when a tank has like 10 mobs hitting him.
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    Judge_Xero's Avatar
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    Character
    Divine Gate
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    This is temporary. It happened at the beginning of HW too. Just wait until the gear from raids/capped tomestones is out, and we'll be back to overgearing everything.
    Nah mobs hit way harder than HW. Immediately in HW my Fairy could heal most dungeons and it's not because now my Fairy does 500 HPS less per heal that she can't. Of course being further overgear is going to make things trivial but hopefully it means future dungeons will pose a further challenge.
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    Risvertasashi's Avatar
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    Makani Risvertasashi
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Judge_Xero View Post
    Nah mobs hit way harder than HW. Immediately in HW my Fairy could heal most dungeons and it's not because now my Fairy does 500 HPS less per heal that she can't. Of course being further overgear is going to make things trivial but hopefully it means future dungeons will pose a further challenge.
    ...Considering how easy the ex primals are to heal even under their minimum ilvl requirement, I wouldn't hold your breath...
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