Is house selling okay?

[Ralos]

I'm on the ever over populated balmung with login problems, erp and the ever present housing crisis, so of course the pf pops up now and then with people looking to buy or sell a house and I was just wondering what the official stance was on this practice since I know there has been some drama regarding people selling houses. Is it okay? Does it break ToS? Under certain conditions?

ThanKS in advance for any insight.

[Furiea]

it's not.

don't think anyone would buy house now... since new area prob gonna be released soon and it's pretty darn cheap.

[Ametrine]

It does break ToS. Don't risk your account.

The new transfer system out of congested servers is pretty generous about old property paybacks, if Balmung is the issue anyway.

[Felis]

It is not okay if you want more than an empty plot would cost

[HakaseNyan]

It's this strange gray area, really. People that sell their house with the pitch of "relinquishing the land/plot" to you, actually cannot guarantee it. Therefore, incur the wrath of GMs. However, in the case of someone selling their entire Free Company that happens to come with housing, a pitch that can be guaranteed, I've never heard of a GM jumping on that. At least not yet.

[Rymm]

It's technically against the ToS, but there is a lot of controversy around it (as you can probably already tell by the responses to the thread so far.) If you do try to sell a house and someone reports you, you may get in trouble and you may not. It's a coin flip. The GMs seem to be extremely inconsistent in doing anything about it. The only thing I can say for certain is that the more you overcharge for the plot over what it is actually worth (i.e. you are doing it for profit and not just trying to recoup your losses from buying it in the first place,) the more likely you are to be punished.

Basically, sell your plot at your own risk.

[syunikiss]

It's technically against the ToS, but there is a lot of controversy around it (as you can probably already tell by the responses to the thread so far.) If you do try to sell a house and someone reports you, you may get in trouble and you may not. It's a coin flip. The GMs seem to be extremely inconsistent in doing anything about it. The only thing I can say for certain is that the more you overcharge for the plot over what it is actually worth (i.e. you are doing it for profit and not just trying to recoup your losses from buying it in the first place,) the more likely you are to be punished.

Basically, sell your plot at your own risk.

I wonder what is the proper way to sell a house/plot that doesn't goes against the ToS?

[Rymm]

I wonder what is the proper way to sell a house/plot that doesn't goes against the ToS?

From what I understood, they had to make it against the ToS so that they would have the ability to punish people who abuse it if they choose to. Most GMs will turn a blind eye to it though if it's obvious you are just trying to make back what you put into it in the first place- selling it at or near the original plot price. The only time I've ever heard of any action being taken is when someone marks up a house for 3-4 times or more what it costs to buy it from the server, obviously done for profit.

[Ametrine]

It is not okay if you want more than an empty plot would cost

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...2338cf55ce7#t4

You are gifted 3Mil gil just to account for the housing elements you can't take with you ON TOP OF the full price of the estate itself. They are making it as easy and fair as possible.

[Final-Fantasy]

It is allowed. Yoshi made a statement saying it was, though, selling for huge profit is another story, that can and will get you into trouble if enough players report you.

However, if you own a plot privately, and want to move worlds, you can now remove your building permit (don't give up the plot!) and on the world transfer page, it will tell you that, you will get the full price of the plot + 3,000,000 gil to cover any non-removable items, even if you had none this works. When you login, you will automatically receive your plot cost + 3M Gil.

This doesn't work if you have an FC with a house.